030  
AGNT40 KWNM 201235  
MIMATN  
 
MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION  
NWS OCEAN PREDICTION CENTER WASHINGTON DC  
830 AM EDT SAT 20 MAR 2010  
 
.FORECAST DISCUSSION: MAJOR FEATURES/WINDS/SEAS/SIGNIFICANT  
.WEATHER FOR NORTH ATLANTIC OCEAN W OF 50W FROM 30N TO 50N.  
 
COLD FRNT WILL DROP SE THRU NEW ENGL TDA AND EMERGE OFFSHR TNGT  
AND WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD ASSOC WINDS IN 15 TO 20 KT RANGE N OF  
HUDSON CNYN. FCST CHALLENGE THEN BECOMES WHETHER ANY GALES WILL  
MIX TO SFC AHEAD OF COLD FRNT MOVING OFFSHR S OF HATTERAS CNYN  
LATE SUN NGT/MON. 06Z GFS WAS LESS ENTHUSIASTIC THAN ITS  
PREVIOUS RUN WITH ANY PRE FRNTL GALES HERE. WITH SUCH WINDS  
ALREADY IN PLACE IN NT2 FCST...WILL MAINTAIN OPC FCST CONTINUITY  
AND REVISIT AFTER 12Z GUIDANCE AVAILABLE. 06Z GFS WAS THEN  
SLIGHTLY SLOWER THAN PREVIOUS RUNS WITH UPPER LOW OFF MID ATLC  
COAST LATE TUE AS WAS THE 00Z ECMWF WHEN COMPARED TO ITS  
PREVIOUS RUN. AND AGAIN NOT PLANNING ON SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS  
FROM PREVIOUS NT1/NT2 FCSTS WITH ASSOC GALES.  
 
WITH 06Z GFS NO LONGER INDICATING AS STRONG OF NE WINDS OVER GLF  
OF ME TUE NGT...06Z WAVEWATCH III ALSO BACKED OFF SIG WV HGTS BY  
3 TO 5 FT FROM ITS PREVIOUS RUN.  
 
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..PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
 
OVER THE SHORT TERM...THE NEW 00Z MDLS RMN IN RSNBLY GOOD AGRMT  
THAT A WEAK COLD FRONT WL PUSH INTO THE NRN GULF OF MAINE LATE  
TODAY...STALL ACRS THE SRN MOST NT1 WTRS TONITE INTO SUN...THEN  
DRIFT BACK N AS A WARM FRONT LATE SUN INTO MON. SUSPECT THAT THE  
00Z NAM/GFS MAYBE A LTL TOO FAST TO LIFT THE FRONT BACK N...BUT  
NOT SIGLY SO. REGARDLESS OF THE TIMING OF THIS FRONT...PER THE  
00Z NAM/GFS FCST BL WINDS...DO NOT PLAN ON FCSTG ANY ASCD WINDS  
IN EXCESS OF 15-20 KT AS PREVLY FCSTD. OTHERWISE NO OTHER SIG  
SHORT TERM CHNGS ARE PLANNED TO THE PREV OFSHR FCST PACKAGE.  
 
IN THE LONG RANGE...THE 00Z MDLS GNRLY AGREE THAT A CLOSED UPR  
LOW WL MOV OFF THE MID ATLC COAST TUE AND PASS E OF THE OFSHR  
WTRS WED. AT THE SFC THO THE MDLS CONT TO DIFFER WITH THEIR FCST  
TRACKS OF THE ASCD SFC LOW(S?). THRU 84HRS THE MDLS OVERALL ARE  
IN ACPTBLY GOOD AGRMT...THO BLV THE 00Z GFS/GEM ARE A LTL TOO  
FAST WITH THE ASCD FRONT PUSHING OFSHR. THEN BY LATE TUE/WED THE  
00Z GFS CONTS THE TREND OF ITS PREV 18Z RUN IN FCSTG ITS ASCD  
SFC LOW TO MOV OFSHR ACRS THE NRN WTRS MR SLOWLY. BUT THE 00Z  
GEFS MEAN INDICATES THAT THE 00Z IS STIL TOO FAST. SMLR TO ITS  
PREV 12Z RUN...BLV THE 00Z UKMET LOOKS TO BCM A NWRN OUTLIER  
WITH ITS SFC LOW BY WED. BY 25/00Z THE 00Z GFS/GEM/GEFS MEAN AND  
12Z ECMWF CONVERGE TO WHAT LOOKS TO BE A RNSBL FCST PSN SE OF  
NOVA SCOTIA. SO OVERALL PLAN ON FAVORING A BLENDED 00Z GEFS MEAN  
AND 12Z ECMWF FCST TRACK FOR THIS SYSTEM. IN RGRDS TO THE ASCD  
WRNGS... AS THE ASCD FRONT IS FCST TO PUSH OFSHR SUN NITE INTO  
TUE...BLV ANY ASCD PREFRONTAL SLY GALES WL BE LIMITED TO THE  
WARMER WTRS FM THE GULF STREAM EWD BYND THE CSTL WTR DOMAINS.  
THEN IN THE WAKE OF THE SFC LOW AND POSTFRONTAL WISE...THE 00Z  
GFS NOW FCSTS STORM FORCE BL WINDS TO DVLP ACRS THE GULF OF  
MAINE LATE TUE. FOR NOW WITH THE OTHER 00Z GLOBAL MDLS (UNLESS  
THE 00Z ECMWF COMES IN AND SPRTS THE GFS) FCSTG SMWHT WEAKER  
GRADIENTS THERE WL HOLD OFF ON ANY STORM WRNGS. OTHERWISE WL  
CONT WITH THE PREVLY FCSTD POSTFRONTAL GALES DVLPG THRUT THE  
WTRS N OF CP FEAR. AS NOTED EARLIER IT STIL LOOKS CLOSE AS TO  
WHETHER THE HDSN TO BALT CNYN WTRS WL REACH GALE FORCE LATE  
TUE/EARLY WED. FOR NOW WL CONT TO HOLD OFF ON WRNGS FOR THESE  
WTRS UNLESS THE 00Z ECMWF COMES IN AND SPRTS THEM. SO OVERALL NO  
MAJOR LONG RANGE CHNGS ARE PLANNED TO THE PREV OFSHR FCSTS RGRDG  
THIS SYSTEM.  
 
OVERALL THE 00Z WNA WAVEWATCH III FCST SEAS LOOK REPRESENTATIVE.  
BUT SINCE THE 00Z GFS WL NOT BE COMPLETELY FAVORED...WL TONE  
DOWN THE MDLS FCST SEAS ACRS THE GULF OF MAINE SLIGHTLY TUE  
NITE.  
 
EXTRATROPICAL STORM SURGE GUIDANCE...THE 00Z ETSS MDL FCSTS MAX  
POSITIVE SURGE VALUES IN THE 1-2 FT RANGE ALONG THE COAST BTWN  
CP COD AND MATINICUS ROCK BY LATE TUE WHICH IS LKLY SLIGHTLY  
OVERDONE SINCE THE STORM FORCE GFS BL WINDS WL NOT BE ACPTD FOR  
NOW.  
   
WARNINGS/FORECAST CONFIDENCE
 
WARNINGS ARE PRELIMINARY AND ARE  
SUBJECT TO CHANGE. ANY CHANGES WILL BE COORDINATED THROUGH AWIPS  
12 PLANET CHAT OR BY TELEPHONE.  
 
.NT1 NEW ENGLAND WATERS    
GULF OF MAINE...GALE TUE INTO WED
 
MOD CONFDC.    
GEORGES BANK...GALE WED
 
MOD CONFDC.    
S OF NEW ENGLAND...GALE TUE INTO WED
 
MOD CONFDC.  
 
.NT2 MID ATLC WATERS    
HUDSON TO BALT CNYN
 
NONE.    
BALT CNYN TO HAGUE LINE...GALE TUE AND WED
 
MOD CONFDC.    
BALT CNYN TO HATTERAS CNYN...GALE MON INTO WED
 
LOW TO MOD  
CONFDC.    
HATTERAS CNYN TO CAPE FEAR...GALE MON AND TUE
 
LOW TO MOD  
CONFDC.    
CAPE FEAR TO 31N...GALE MON
 
LOW CONFDC.  
 
.FORECASTER CLARK/VUKITS. OCEAN FORECAST BRANCH.  
 
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