635  
FXUS02 KWBC 201843  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
142 PM EST FRI NOV 20 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON NOV 23 2009 - 12Z FRI NOV 27 2009  
 
 
USED THE 12Z/19 ECMWF AND EC ENSEMBLE MEAN TO CONSTRUCT THE  
PRELIMINARY FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7. THE ECWMF  
LEAD THE WAY AMONG THE GLOBAL MODELS LAST WEEK PREDICTING THE  
PATTERN CURRENTLY IN PLACE OVER THE NATION. THE MODEL HAS BEEN  
FAIRLY CONSISTENT OVER THE PAST THREE CYCLES FOR THE UPCOMING  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...WITH THE 12Z/19 DETERMINISTIC RUN MORE  
SQUARELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOST RECENT MEAN THAN THE 00Z/20  
VERSION. THE GFS...GEM GLOBAL...AND UKMET ARE DISPARATE ENOUGH ON  
DAY 3 TO CAST DOUBT ON THEIR SOLUTIONS THEREAFTER.  
 
UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS INCORPORATE MORE OF THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN  
INCREASING DAILY AFTER DAY 4 THRU THE PERIOD.  
 
12Z GUIDANCE OF GFS REMAINS REASONABLY SIMILAR WITH THE BASIC  
PATTERN OF THE PLAINS CLOSED LOW LIFTING NEWD INTO THE GREAT LAKES  
REGION DAY 4 TUES WITH ANOTHER SHORTWAVE DROPPING SEWD INTO THE  
MEAN PLAINS/MS VALLEY TROF TUES INTO WED WHILE UPSTREAM RIDGING  
BUILDS OVER THE ROCKIES. 12Z GFS OFFRS A PHASING SOLUTION  
DEVELOPING A STRONG NEG TILT CLOSED LOW OVER THE ERN GREAT  
LAKES/NEW ENG REGION DAY 7 FRI AND WHILE PHASING SOLUTIONS ARE  
SUSPECT AT THIS TIME RANGE THE OVERALL PATTERN REMAINS VERY  
SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR ENS MEANS OF BOTH GFS AND ECMWF BY LATE NEXT  
WEEK. 12Z CMC/ECMWF AND UKMET EARLY ON DIG THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES  
SHORTWAVE FARTHER WEST THAN ANY SOLUTION RESULTING IN A FRONT  
RANGE/CO PLAINS SNOWSTORM ON DAY 3. THIS IS A PREFERED TREND BY  
HPC MEDIUM RANGE AND MODEL DIAG AND REMAINS A MATCH TO EARLIER  
PROGS FROM HPC THAN UTILIZED THE 00Z ECMWF FOR DAY 3.  
CISCO/ROSENSTEIN  

 
 
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