604  
FXUS02 KWNH 080900  
PREEPD  
 
PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
400 AM EST SUN NOV 08 2009  
 
VALID 12Z THU NOV 12 2009 - 12Z SUN NOV 15 2009  
 
THE MOST AGREEABLE ASPECT OF THE MEDIUM RANGE FCST CONTINUES TO BE  
WITH A STRONG CORE OF LOW HGTS ALOFT MOVING TOWARD AND SETTLING  
OVER ALASKA WITH A BROAD MEAN TROF BECOMING ESTABLISHED OVER THE  
NERN PACIFIC. FAST PACIFIC FLOW IS FCST TO STREAM INTO NOAM FROM  
AROUND FRI ONWARD. TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THE STRONG CORE OF  
NEGATIVE HGT ANOMALIES FCST TO RESIDE OVER ALASKA BY THE LATTER  
HALF OF THE PERIOD FAVOR PROGRESSIVE SRN CANADA/NRN CONUS FLOW  
WITH A HINT OF A MEAN TROF OVER ERN CANADA INTO THE GRTLKS/UPR MS  
VALLEY... AND A MODEST MEAN TROF FROM NEAR THE SRN ROCKIES INTO  
NWRN MEXICO. THE 00Z GFS AND ECMWF PROVIDE TWO VERY DIFFERENT  
EVOLUTIONS OF THE INCOMING PACIFIC FLOW WITH THE GFS BRINGING IT  
EWD ALONG THE US-CANADIAN BORDER WHILE THE ECMWF AMPLIFIES ENERGY  
INTO THE SRN ROCKIES BY DAY 7 SUN. THE UKMET/CANADIAN ARE  
ACTUALLY FASTER/FLATTER VERSIONS OF THE GFS. PREVIOUS ECMWF RUNS  
ALONG WITH 00Z GEFS/12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLES DO NOT PROVIDE MUCH  
SUPPORT FOR THE 00Z ECMWF SCENARIO... BUT CONSISTENT WITH  
TELECONNECTIONS DO INDICATE SOME ENERGY SETTLING INTO THE WRN  
CONUS/NWRN MEXICO. ANOTHER QUESTIONABLE ASPECT OF THE 00Z ECMWF  
IS A DEEPENING SYSTEM WHICH THE MODEL BRINGS ACROSS THE NERN  
PACIFIC FRI-SAT AND DOES NOT COMPARE WELL TO LATEST ENSEMBLES.  
 
THERE IS ALSO A DECENT AMOUNT OF SPREAD WITH THE ULTIMATE  
EVOLUTION OF ERN PAC ENERGY TRACKING INTO WRN NOAM DURING THE  
FIRST HALF OF THE FCST. THE 00Z GFS IS AGAIN FAIRLY EXTREME  
COMPARED TO OTHER GUIDANCE REGARDING THE STRENGTH OF HGT FALLS  
PASSING THRU THE UPR MS VALLEY/GRTLKS DURING THE FRI NIGHT-SAT  
TIME FRAME... SO LEANING AWAY FROM THE GFS IS THE MOST CONFIDENT  
ASPECT OF THIS PART OF THE FCST. OTHERWISE THERE IS ENOUGH  
MODEL/ENSEMBLE SPREAD AND RUN TO RUN INCONSISTENCY REGARDING  
PROGRESSION OF NRN STREAM FLOW ALONG THE US-CANADIAN BORDER TO  
PRECLUDE ENDORSEMENT OF ANY PARTICULAR SOLN.  
 
DURING DAYS 3-4 WED-THU FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO INTO THE WRN  
ATLC... CONFIDENCE REMAINS LOW WITH THE EXTRATROPICAL EVOLUTION OF  
HURCN IDA... AND POSSIBLE WRN ATLC DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DEPICTED IN  
THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF/CMC. THE MANUAL FCST REFLECTS THE TPC TRACK FOR  
IDA GIVEN BY THE SPECIAL ADVISORY ISSUED AT 0715Z. WITH ENSEMBLE  
GUIDANCE THUS FAR CONSISTENT IN DOWNPLAYING POTENTIAL FOR ANY  
STRONG WRN ATLC DEVELOPMENT... AND THE UKMET/NOGAPS ALSO  
PROGRESSIVE WITH SHRTWV ENERGY REACHING THE WRN ATLC EARLY IN THE  
FCST... IT IS DIFFICULT TO PLACE TOO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE  
GFS/ECMWF/CMC YET. HOWEVER TAKEN AS A WHOLE THESE SOLNS MAY  
PROVIDE ENOUGH OF A SIGNAL TO INCORPORATE MODEST WEIGHTING AS A  
STARTING POINT. BY DAY 4 THU THE MANUAL FCST INCORPORATES A BLEND  
TO YIELD A SOLN CONSISTENT WITH OPC PREFERENCES TOWARD A WEAKER  
WRN ATLC SFC LOW SLIGHTLY S/SW OF THE 00Z ECMWF.  
 
THE DAYS 3-4 WED-THU FCST STARTS WITH A BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF AND  
00Z GEFS/12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS TO PROVIDE A DECENT  
REPRESENTATION OF CONSENSUS AND YIELD THE DESIRED SOLN OVER THE  
WRN ATLC. SOME OF THE 00Z ECMWF WEIGHTING WAS REPLACED WITH THE  
12Z/7 ECMWF DAYS 5-7 FRI-SUN AS THE 00Z ECMWF SOLN BECOMES MORE  
QUESTIONABLE.  
 
RAUSCH  

 
 
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