196  
FXUS02 KWNH 251400  
PREEPD  
 
PRELIMINARY EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
859 AM EST WED NOV 25 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SUN NOV 29 2009 - 12Z WED DEC 02 2009  
 
 
THE UPDATED PRELIM GRAPHICS KEPT THE SAME GENERAL IDEAS OF THE  
EARLY PRELIM BUT SUBSTITUTED THE NEW 00Z/25 ECENS MEAN FOR THE  
OLDER CORRESPONDING 12Z/24 MEAN. OUR BLEND WAS 70% DETERMINISTIC  
ECMWF EARLY IN THE PERIOD BUT TAPERED OFF TO 70% ECMWF ENSEMBLE  
MEAN TOWARDS THE END OF THE PERIOD.  
 
DESPITE BIG CONTINUITY CHANGES IN ITS LAST TWO RUNS FOR THE MIDDLE  
OF NEXT WEEK...THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE STILL LOOKS MORE  
STABLE THAN THE OTHER GLOBAL NUMERICAL MODELS...INCLUDING THE GFS  
AND GEM GLOBAL...WITH THE HANDLING OF THE UPCOMING PATTERN. THE  
MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM....FOR TUE-WED DAYS 6-7...APPEARS TO BE THE  
POSSIBLE SPLITTING OF A TROF CROSSING THE MS RIVER INTO NRN AND  
SRN STREAM PIECES OF ENERGY. THIS SPLITTING IS COMPLICATED BY A  
THIRD SHOT OF ENERGY DROPPING INTO THE NRN ROCKIES AT THAT TIME  
WITH ITS OWN POTENTIAL FOR SPLITTING INTO TWO PARTS. IT WAS  
SOMEWHAT ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE NEW 00Z GFS PARALLEL RUN  
SUPPORTING THE 00Z ECMWF WITH A POSITIVE TILT SPLITTING TROF  
SCENARIO TUE DAY 6 VERSUS THE REGULAR GFS DEEP ONE PIECE SYS OVER  
THE ERN CONUS. HOWEVER THE 06Z/25 PARALLEL RUN EVOLVED A WHOLE  
DIFFERENT SCENARIO BY DAY 6 CREATING TWO CUTOFF LOWS FROM THE  
SPLIT OFF SRN END OF THE NRN ROCKIES TROF AS WELL AS THAT OF THE  
ERN CONUS TROF. THAT WILD 06Z GFS PARALLEL SOLUTION HAD NO SUPPORT  
FROM THE 00Z/25 ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI PLOTS...WHILE THE SPLITTING  
SOLUTION OF THE 00Z DETERMINISTIC ECMWF HAS GOOD SUPPORT FROM  
ECMWF/CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND EVEN A FEW GFS ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS. BEHIND THAT SYSTEM...ALL THE MODELS SHOW AN INVASION OF  
AT LEAST MODIFIED ARCTIC AIR OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE DAY 7  
AND JUST BEYOND THIS FORECAST PERIOD...THE FIRST SUCH OUTBREAK IN  
SEVERAL WEEKS.  
 
CISCO/FLOOD  

 
 
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