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FXUS62 KTAE 082234 CCA  
AFDTAE  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL  
510 PM EST SUN NOV 8 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
21Z WATER VAPOR AND H4 RUC ANALYSIS SHOWING A RATHER FLAT NORTHERN  
STREAM FLOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE COUNTY/SOUTHERN CANADA.  
BROAD UPPER RIDGING IS EXITING THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE  
COUNTRY AS LONGWAVE TROUGHING APPROACHES FROM NORTHERN MEXICO/TEXAS.  
 
AT THE SURFACE...STRONG 1027MB HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED ALONG THE  
MID-ATLANTIC COAST CONTINUES TO RIDGE DOWN INTO THE THE REGION.  
AND...OF COURSE ALL EYES ARE ON HURRICANE IDA MOVING NORTH FROM THE  
YUCATAN CHANNEL AND INTO THE SOUTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO.  
 
AT 300 PM CST...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IDA WAS LOCATED NEAR  
LATITUDE 22.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 86.3 WEST...OR ABOUT 510 MILES  
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.  
 
IDA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH WITH MAXIMUM  
SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR 100 MPH...AND A CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 976MB OR  
28.82 INCHES.  
 
CHALLENGING FORECAST UNFOLDING FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST WITH  
RESPECT TO IDA. THE CHALLENGING PART EVOLVES FROM THE COMPLEX  
INTERACTION THAT IDA IS GOING TO HAVE WITH THE APPROACHING UPPER  
TROUGH MENTIONED ABOVE...AND THE EVER TIGHTENING PRESSURE GRADIENT  
BETWEEN IDA AND THE STRONG HIGH TO OUR NORTHEAST.  
 
OUR WEATHER WILL REMAIN QUIET OVERNIGHT FOR OUR LAND ZONES WITH JUST  
SOME INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS. CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY ROUGH ACROSS THE  
MARINE ZONES DUE TO THE TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT...BUT WILL GIVE MORE  
DETAILS ON THIS IN THE MARINE SECTION BELOW.  
 
HURRICANE IDA WILL CONTINUE NORTHWARD INTO THE CENTRAL/EASTERN GULF  
DURING MONDAY. THE HURRICANE WILL BE INTERACTING WITH AN UPPER  
TROUGH/FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE WEST. THIS INTERACTION  
WILL BEGIN WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS EXTRA-TROPICAL TRANSITION.  
ESSENTIALLY THIS MEANS THAT THE STORM WILL BEGIN LOSING ITS TROPICAL  
CHARACTERISTICS AND START RESEMBLING A MORE TYPICAL WINTER-TYPE  
STORM. THE BIG QUESTION IS JUST HOW RAPIDLY THIS TRANSITION WILL  
OCCUR. THIS PROCESS APPEARS NOW THAT IT WILL BE A BIT SLOWER TO  
OCCUR AND IDA MAY APPROACH THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF COAST WITH AT  
LEAST SOME TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. AS A RESULT HURRICANE WATCHES  
HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE PANHANDLE COASTLINE (SEE  
WATCHES/WARNING SECTION BELOW). REGARDLESS OF THE EXACT STORM  
TYPE...COASTAL EFFECTS ARE LIKELY TO BE THE SAME. EASTERLY WINDS  
WILL SHIFT SOUTHEAST MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT WITH GALE  
FORCE/TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ANTICIPATED OVER THE ENTIRE MARINE  
AREA AND ALONG SOME COASTAL AREAS. THE EXTENDED DURATION OF THESE  
WINDS IN COMBINATION WITH INCREASING SURF IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN  
AREAS OF MODERATE TO SIGNIFICANT BEACH EROSION. STORM TIDES OF 3 TO  
5 FEET ARE EXPECTED AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE MONDAY EVENING THROUGH  
TUESDAY IN APALACHEE BAY...ESPECIALLY FOR MORE VULNERABLE LOCATIONS  
ALONG FRANKLIN AND WAKULLA COUNTIES. FURTHER WEST ALONG THE  
PANHANDLE STORM TIDES OF 2 TO 3 FEET ARE EXPECTED. COASTAL FLOOD  
WATCHES AND HIGH SURF ADVISORIES ARE ALSO NOW IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS  
OF THE COAST.  
 
AS IT STANDS NOW...THE MAIN CONCERN AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST  
WILL NOT BE THE WIND...BUT RATHER RAINFALL POTENTIAL. ONCE THE STORM  
HAS COMPLETELY TRANSITIONED TO EXTRA-TROPICAL IT APPEARS THAT THE  
MAIN DEFORMATION ZONE/FRONTOGENESIS WILL BE PASSING JUST TO OUR  
WEST/NORTH. HOWEVER...THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE A DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE  
CONNECTION ON ITS EASTERN SIDE WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR LOCALLY HEAVY  
RAIN BANDS. WHERE THE HEAVIEST RAIN BANDS SET UP WILL DEPEND HIGHLY  
ON THE EXACT PATH OF IDA OR THE REMNANTS OF IDA...BUT THE TIME FRAME  
WOULD BE LATER MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. WHEN THE DETAILS BECOME MORE  
CERTAIN...FLOOD WATCHES MAY BE NECESSARY FOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA.  
 
LOW AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SWING ACROSS THE AREA  
LATER TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT WITH A WIND SHIFT TO THE NORTHWEST  
AND DRIER CONDITIONS RETURNING ON BREEZY NORTHWEST WINDS.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY)  
 
IT LOOKS LIKE MUCH DRIER AIR WILL MOVE INTO THE REGION BY WEDNESDAY  
AS THE REMNANTS OF IDA MOVE NORTH AND EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA. THE  
SURFACE RIDGE CENTER LOOKS TO MOVE MORE INTO THE MID ATLANTIC THAN  
THE SOUTHEAST...THUS THE TEMPERATURES WILL NOT DROP OFF  
SIGNIFICANTLY BEHIND THIS FRONT. LOWS SHOULD ONLY FALL INTO THE LOW  
TO MID 40S. HOWEVER...THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL CREATE A COUPLE OF  
BREEZY DAYS UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN THE RIDGE AXIS FINALLY MOVES OVER THE  
REGION. A GRADUAL WARM UP IS EXPECTED FOR THE WEEKEND AS BOTH  
SURFACE AND MID LEVEL RIDGING BUILD OVER THE SOUTHEAST.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH TONIGHT. BRISK EASTERLY WINDS OF  
15 KT WITH GUSTS TO 20 KT WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON.  
OVERNIGHT...GUIDANCE HAS BACKED OFF OF LOW CIGS/VSBYS FOR MOST TAF  
LOCATIONS. STILL...VLD...ABY...AND DHN MAY BRIEFLY SEE MVFR  
CIGS/VSBYS EARLY MONDAY MORNING. LOW CIGS AND BR SHOULD DIMINISH BY  
MID MORNING WITH INCREASING WINDS AND SURFACE HEATING. WIND GUSTS TO  
20 KT WILL BE POSSIBLE INTO THE LATER PART OF THE DAY MONDAY.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
ROUGH PERIOD UNDERWAY ACROSS THE NORTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO. STRONG  
PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN HURRICANE IDA TO OUR SOUTH AND HIGH  
PRESSURE TO OUR NORTH IS ALREADY RESULTING IN SOLID ADVISORY LEVEL  
CONDITIONS. THIS CONDITIONS WILL ONLY DETERIORATE FURTHER OVERNIGHT  
WITH HURRICANE WATCHES NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE WESTERN LEGS AND GALE  
WATCHES IN EFFECT FURTHER EAST. HURRICANE IDA IS EXPECTED TO PASS  
JUST WEST OF OUR MARINE LEGS MONDAY NIGHT OR EARLY TUESDAY WITH  
TROPICAL STORM OR EVEN HURRICANE FORCE GUSTS ANTICIPATED. THE  
REMNANTS OF IDA WILL MOVE EAST OF THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT INTO  
WEDNESDAY...HOWEVER STRONG NW WINDS TO ADVISORY LEVELS ARE EXPECTED  
TO CONTINUE INTO THURSDAY.  
 
 
   
FIRE WEATHER  
 
RELATIVELY DRY CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN OVER THE AREA THROUGH MONDAY  
MORNING. AS A FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHES LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY  
MORNING...WINDS WILL SHIFT TO EAST THEN SOUTHEAST AND INCREASE AHEAD  
OF THE IDA/THE COLD FRONTAL MERGER. DUE TO EXPECTED WET WEATHER OVER  
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...RELATIVE HUMIDITY WILL REMAIN WELL ABOVE  
CRITICAL LEVELS...THUS NO FIRE WEATHER HAZARDS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH  
THE EARLY PART OF THE WORK WEEK.  
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
TALLAHASSEE 58 76 66 74 54 / 0 30 90 80 30  
PANAMA CITY 63 75 67 73 55 / 10 60 100 70 30  
DOTHAN 57 73 62 70 50 / 10 30 100 80 30  
ALBANY 54 77 63 71 52 / 0 10 90 80 30  
VALDOSTA 57 78 64 76 55 / 0 10 80 80 40  
CROSS CITY 59 80 68 77 56 / 0 20 80 80 40  
APALACHICOLA 65 75 67 75 55 / 10 60 90 70 30  
 
 
   
TAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
AL...NONE.  
GA...NONE.  
FL...HURRICANE WATCH FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: BAY...COASTAL WALTON.  
 
HIGH SURF ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST /6 PM CST/ TUESDAY FOR THE  
FOLLOWING ZONES: FRANKLIN...GULF.  
 
COASTAL FLOOD WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING  
FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: FRANKLIN...GULF...WAKULLA.  
 
GM...GALE WATCH THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
APALACHEE BAY OR COASTAL WATERS FROM KEATON BEACH TO  
OCHLOCKONEE RIVER FL OUT TO 20 NM...COASTAL WATERS FROM  
OCHLOCKONEE RIVER TO APALACHICOLA FL OUT TO 20 NM...COASTAL  
WATERS FROM SUWANNEE RIVER TO KEATON BEACH OUT 20 NM...  
WATERS FROM SUWANNEE RIVER TO APALACHICOLA FL FROM 20 TO 60  
NM.  
 
HURRICANE WATCH FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: COASTAL WATERS FROM  
APALACHICOLA TO DESTIN FL OUT 20 NM...WATERS FROM  
APALACHICOLA TO DESTIN FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM/MARINE...MROCZKA  
AVIATION/FIRE WEATEHR...AUSTIN/FOURNIER  
LONG TERM...GODSEY  
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