829  
FXUS64 KMOB 072136  
AFDMOB  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL  
336 PM CST SAT NOV 7 2009  
   
SHORT TERM  
(TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT) VERY QUIET WEATHER EXPECTED  
THROUGH MUCH OF SUNDAY WITH TROPICAL STORM IDA NOT YET IN THE GULF  
AND HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING DOWN FROM THE MID ATLANTIC STILL BEING THE  
MAIN INFLUENCE ON OUR WEATHER. A MORE ESE COMPONENT TO THE WIND TODAY  
HAS ALLOWED DEWPOINTS TO CLIMB ACROSS THE AREA...SO NOT EXPECTING  
LOWS TO BE AS COLD TONIGHT. LOWS IN THE LOW 40S FAR INLAND TO MID 50S  
ALONG THE COAST. HIGH TOMORROW IN THE MID TO UPPER 70S WITH MID AND  
HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS INCREASING THROUGH THE DAY.  
 
OF COURSE THE BIG STORY CONTINUES TO BE THE EVOLUTION OF TROPICAL  
STORM IDA. IDA IS CURRENTLY LOCATED OVER THE NW CARIBBEAN SEA AND IS  
VERY NEAR HURRICANE STRENGTH AS IT CONTINUES TO MOVE NORTHWARD. THERE  
IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT IDA WILL REACH HURRICANE STRENGTH IN THE NEXT  
12-18 HOURS AS IT TRAVERSES THE VERY WARM CARIBBEAN WATERS.  
HOWEVER...AS IT ENTERS THE GULF OF MEXICO...IT WILL ENCOUNTER A LESS  
CONDUCIVE ENVIRONMENT AS WATER TEMPS COOL AND UPPER LEVEL WINDS  
BECOME MORE HOSTILE. THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE COME INTO MUCH BETTER  
AGREEMENT ON ACCELERATING IDA NORTHWARD AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING MID  
LEVEL TROUGH AND ATTENDANT COLD FRONT. BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SHOW  
IDA NEARING THE AL/NW FL COASTS BY EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.  
HOWEVER...BASED ON THE LATEST MOTION AND POSITION...THESE MODELS MAY  
A LITTLE TOO FAR TO THE WEST. REGARDLESS...IDA IS EXPECTED TO ENTER  
OUR COASTAL WATERS BY MONDAY NIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY...BUT IN A WEAKENED  
STATE AS IT MOVES OVER WATERS TEMPS IN THE UPPER 70S AND EXPERIENCES  
INCREASINGLY HOSTILE UPPER LEVEL WINDS. THE EXPECTATION IS FOR IDA TO  
BEGIN INTERACTING WITH A COLD FRONT AND TRANSITION TO AN  
EXTRATROPICAL STORM SYSTEM. EVEN WITH IDA WEAKENING...THERE WILL BE A  
LARGE PRESSURE GRADIENT IN PLACE BETWEEN IDA AND HIGH PRESSURE  
LOCATED TO THE NORTH. THIS CAUSES A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN EAST TO EAST  
SOUTHEAST WINDS ALONG THE COAST AND OFFSHORE BEGINNING SUNDAY NIGHT.  
AT THE SAME TIME...LARGE SWELLS FROM IDA WILL BEGIN ARRIVING EARLY  
MONDAY MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY. COMBINE ALL OF THIS WITH ASTRONOMICAL  
HIGH TIDES RUNNING 1.0 TO JUST OVER 1.5 FEET...AND THE STAGE IS SET  
FOR SOME COASTAL FLOODING ISSUES...ESPECIALLY IN THE TYPICALLY  
VULNERABLE LOCATIONS. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT TOTAL TIDE HEIGHTS  
WILL REACH ABOUT 3 TO 4 FEET...BUT COULD BE HIGHER IF IDA STRENGTHENS  
FURTHER. THEREFORE...HAVE ISSUED A COASTAL FLOOD WATCH FOR ALL  
COASTAL ZONES.  
 
IT APPEARS THAT THE FIRST HALF OF SUNDAY NIGHT WILL REMAIN RAIN FREE  
WITH JUST SMALL CHANCES ENTERING THE WESTERN ZONES EARLY MONDAY  
MORNING. RAINFALL WILL BEGIN TO SPREAD IN FROM WEST TO EAST DURING  
THE DAY MONDAY AND PERSIST INTO TUESDAY AS THE AFOREMENTIONED  
MID LEVEL TROUGH'S DYNAMICS COMBINES WITH THE MOISTURE AND LIFT FROM  
IDA. CERTAINLY COULD BE SOME HEAVY RAINFALL WITH STORM TOTALS IN THE  
2 TO 4 INCH RANGE. BASED ON THE LATEST FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE AND THE  
EXPECTED DURATION OF THE EVENT...SIGNIFICANT FLOODING ISSUES ARE NOT  
ANTICIPATED.  
 
AS THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER NEARS THE COAST MONDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY  
TUESDAY...WIND GUSTS OF UP TO 40 MPH ALONG THE COAST ARE A  
POSSIBILITY. WILL HIGHLIGHT THIS POTENTIAL IN THE HWO.  
 
STAYED CLOSE TO GFS MOS ON TEMPS WITH HIGHS TEMPERED MONDAY WITH RAIN  
AND CLOUDS AND LOWS ABOVE NORMAL. 34/JFB  
   
LONG TERM  
(TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY) MODEL DIFFERENCES ARISE BY LATE  
IN THE DAY TUESDAY ON HOW TO HANDLE THE EVOLUTION OF IDA'S REMNANT  
LOW. THE GFS QUICKLY SHIFTS THE LOW EAST ALONG WITH THE  
FRONT...BRINGING AN END TO MUCH OF THE RAIN BY LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON  
WHILE THE ECMWF SHIFTS IDA BACK SOUTH INTO THE GULF WITH RAIN  
LINGERING INTO TUESDAY NIGHT. FOR NOW WILL STICK CLOSE THE MOS  
GUIDANCE AND END MOST POPS BY EARLY TUESDAY EVENING. SOME FINE TUNING  
TO THIS FORECAST WILL CERTAINLY BE NEEDED.  
 
WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY LOOK DRY AND SEASONABLE AS ANOTHER HIGH  
PRESSURE SYSTEM SHIFTS TO THE EASTERN SEABOARD. A RETURN TO ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPS POSSIBLE FRI/SAT AS AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDS OVER THE  
SOUTHEAST AND A SURFACE FRONT STALLED OVER THE GULF BEGINS TO RETREAT  
NORTH. HAVE ADDED A SLIGHT CHANCE POP TO SATURDAY BASED ON THE 12Z  
GFS/ECMWF SHOWING PRECIP DEVELOPING ALONG THE WARM FRONT. 34/JFB  
 
 
   
AVIATION...VFR THROUGH THE FORECAST  
AS HIGH PRESSURE MAINTAINS  
CONTROL OVER THE AREA. /13  
 
 
   
MARINE  
THE GRADIENT BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE SOUTHEAST  
STATES AND MUCH LOWER PRESSURES OVER THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO AS  
A RESULT OF TROPICAL STORM IDA WILL RESULT IN INCREASING EASTERLY  
FLOW OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. TROPICAL STORM IDA IS CURRENTLY LOCATED  
IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA AND WILL MOVE INTO THE SOUTHERN GULF OF  
MEXICO THROUGH THE YUCATAN CHANNEL OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS WILL  
CAUSE WINDS TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE ALONG WITH RAPIDLY BUILDING SEAS  
SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. GALE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE LATE SUNDAY THROUGH  
MONDAY NIGHT BEYOND 20 NM OFFSHORE. IDA WILL RAPIDLY BECOME EXTRA  
TROPICAL AS SHE NEAR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF. AS THE REMNANTS OF IDA  
MOVE OUT OF THE AREA...A STRONG OFFSHORE FLOW WILL FOLLOW TUESDAY  
NIGHT THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY. PLEASE REFER TO THE LATEST FORECASTS  
AND DISCUSSIONS BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IN MIAMI ON THE  
TRACK OF TROPICAL STORM IDA. /13  
 
 
   
FIRE WEATHER  
NO CONCERNS. HUMIDITY WILL BE INCREASING SUNDAY AND  
MONDAY ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN WINDS WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE  
APPROACH OF TROPICAL STORM IDA. A SOAKING RAIN IS EXPECTED MONDAY  
INTO TUESDAY. 34/JFB  
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
MOBILE 54 77 63 72 / 00 05 30 80  
PENSACOLA 55 76 63 74 / 00 05 20 70  
DESTIN 60 76 65 74 / 00 05 10 60  
EVERGREEN 45 76 56 72 / 00 05 10 70  
WAYNESBORO 46 75 58 69 / 00 05 20 80  
CAMDEN 43 75 55 70 / 00 05 10 70  
 
 
   
MOB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
AL...COASTAL FLOOD WATCH FROM 6 PM SUNDAY TO 6 AM TUESDAY FOR THE  
FOLLOWING ZONES: LOWER BALDWIN...AND LOWER MOBILE.  
 
FL...COASTAL FLOOD WATCH FROM 6 PM SUNDAY TO 6 AM TUESDAY FOR THE  
FOLLOWING ZONES: COASTAL ESCAMBIA...COASTAL OKALOOSA...AND  
COASTAL SANTA ROSA.  
 
MS...NONE.  
GM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM NOON SUNDAY TO 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE  
FOLLOWING ZONES: AND MOBILE BAY.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES:  
COASTAL WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL OUT 20 NM...AND  
COASTAL WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS OUT 20  
NM.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT MONDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING  
ZONES: WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL FROM 20 TO 60  
NM...AND WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS FROM 20  
TO 60 NM.  
 
GALE WATCH FROM MIDNIGHT MONDAY TO 6PM TUESDAY FOR THE FOLLOWING  
ZONES: WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM...AND  
WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO PASCAGOULA MS FROM 20 TO 60 NM.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM MIDNIGHT TUESDAY TO 6 PM TUESDAY FOR  
THE FOLLOWING ZONES: WATERS FROM DESTIN TO PENSACOLA FL  
FROM 20 TO 60 NM...AND WATERS FROM PENSACOLA FL TO  
PASCAGOULA MS FROM 20 TO 60 NM.  
 
 
 
 
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