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FXUS62 KFFC 210244 AAA  
AFDFFC  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA  
930 PM EST FRI NOV 20 2009  
   
UPDATE  
 
NOT MANY CHANGES NEEDED FOR THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD. INCREASING HIGH  
CLOUDS AS INTENSIFYING...VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE LIFTS OUT OF SOUTH TX.  
THIS IS A RATHER TYPICAL SYSTEM FOR AN EL NINO TYPE PATTERN.  
GFS/ECMWF CONTINUE TO DIFFER ON TIMING...WITH ECMWF HOLDING OFF ON  
BRINGING RAIN INTO THE CWA UNTIL LATE SAT. ECMWF HAS GENERALLY BEEN  
VERIFYING BETTER RECENTLY. HAVE BACKED OFF ON POPS FOR FIRST THREE  
PERIODS AND INCREASED POPS FOR NEXT THREE PERIODS BASED ON SLOWER  
ECMWF SOLUTION. QPF STILL IN QUESTION...BUT LATEST HPC GUIDANCE  
SUGGESTS 2.0+ INCHES ACROSS CENTRAL PORTIONS OF CWA AND 1.0-1.5  
INCHES NORTH. INCREASING CONCERNING FOR AT LEAST MINOR  
FLOODING...BUT VALUES REMAIN BELOW 6 HR FFG VALUES OF 3 INCHES NORTH  
TO 4.5 INCHES SOUTH. EARLIER SPS HIGHLIGHTS CONCERNS FOR  
FLOODING...ESPECIALLY SINCE IT HAS ONLY BEEN A WEEK SINCE THE LAST  
FLOOD EVENT. FLOOD WATCH MAY BE NEEDED IF LATER MODEL RUNS CONTINUE  
TO SHOW HIGHER QPF FROM SLOWER MOVING/MORE INTENSE SYSTEM. HEAVIEST  
RAIN SHOULD FALL SE OF A CSG-MCN-AGS LINE AS MODELS IN GENERAL  
AGREEMENT IN TRACKING SFC LOW ACROSS S GA. THERE IS ALSO SOME  
CONCERN FOR TSRA IN OUR SOUTHERN ZONES. 18Z GFS AGREES WITH CURRENT  
THINKING...HOWEVER...KEEPING TSRA THREAT JUST SOUTH OF THE CWA.  
NONETHELESS...SOME TSRA THREAT 00Z-18Z SUN ACROSS OUR SE  
COUNTIES...BUT WILL SHOW JUST SE OF CWA FOR NOW. AGAIN...MAIN  
CONCERN WILL BE HEAVY RAIN ON SATURATED SOIL.  
 
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PREVIOUS FORECAST DISCUSSION ISSUED 525 PM EST FRIDAY  
 
   
SHORT TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/  
 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE AND WEAK SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WILL KEEP THE  
AREA DRY TONIGHT AND EARLY SATURDAY. STRONG WAVE MOVING OFF THE  
SOUTHERN ROCKIES WILL DEVELOP AN ATTENDANT SURFACE LOW ALONG THE  
TEXAS GULF COAST...AND LATENT HEAT RELEASE WILL ALLOW THE LOW TO  
STRENGTHEN SOMEWHAT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO. GFS IS THE FASTEST OF  
THE SHORT-TERM MODELS WITH BRINGING THE LOW EAST ALONG THE  
COAST...AND ALLOWING MOISTURE TO OVERSPREAD THE SOUTHEAST. HAVE  
LEANED MORE TOWARD A COMPROMISE AS THE ECMWF IS THE SLOWEST...AND IS  
EVEN SLOWER ON THE LATEST 12Z RUN. IN THE MEANTIME...THE SURFACE  
HIGH SLIDES EAST ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND WILL BEGIN RIDGING DOWN  
THE EASTERN SLOPES OF THE APPALACHIANS IN A HYBRID DAMMING EVENT  
BEGINNING TOMORROW. THIS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES NOTICEABLY COOLER  
SATURDAY AND ESPECIALLY SUNDAY UNDER ALL THE CLOUD COVER...AND WILL  
ENHANCE THE AVAILABLE LIFT FOR THE MOISTURE FROM THE COASTAL LOW. DO  
NOT EXPECT SIGNIFICANT HEAVY RAINFALL...BUT DO EXPECT WIDESPREAD  
LIGHT TO OCCASIONALLY MODERATE RAINFALL BETWEEN LATE SATURDAY AND  
SUNDAY...WITH BEST CHANCES SATURDAY NIGHT. OVERALL RAINFALL ANYWHERE  
BETWEEN 1-2". THE LOW BEGINS TO FILL IN LATE IN THE SHORT  
TERM...UNLESS YOU BELIEVE THE NAM WHICH LINGERS IT NEAR LOUISIANA.  
BY THE END OF THE PERIOD THE MOISTURE BEGINS TO MOVE OUT AS THE NEXT  
WAVE IN PLAINS KICKS THE COASTAL SYSTEM TOWARD THE NORTHEAST.  
   
LONG TERM /MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/  
 
AFOREMENTIONED WAVE COMING OFF THE ROCKIES EARLY IN THE WEEK  
DEVELOPS INTO A CLOSED LOW OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS MONDAY INTO  
TUESDAY. ATTENDANT FRONT NOT ESPECIALLY IMPRESSIVE...AT LEAST  
INITIALLY... DUE TO LACK OF MOISTURE RETURN BEHIND THE WEEKEND  
SYSTEM. GFS FASTER...SLIGHTLY DEEPER...AND FURTHER NORTHEAST WITH  
THE LOW AND COLD FRONT...BRINGING THE WEAK REMNANTS OF THE FRONT  
THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH HARDLY MORE THAN AN INCREASE IN CLOUD  
COVER INDICATED FOR OUR AREA. ECMWF HAS A VASTLY DIFFERENT  
SOLUTION...ALLOWING MORE MOISTURE RETURN WITH THE SLOWER SYSTEM.  
IT BRINGS WIDESPREAD MOISTURE TO THE SOUTHEAST DURING THE DAY ON  
WEDNESDAY...LINGERING THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY. CONFIDENCE EXTREMELY  
LOW TOWARD MIDWEEK. ABOUT THE ONLY THING BOTH MODELS ARE AGREEING  
ON IS THE GENERAL TROUGHINESS THAT WILL BE OVER THE EASTERN THIRD  
OF THE COUNTRY...BUT EVEN THEN THE GFS INDICATING A MUCH DEEPER  
AND COLDER TROUGH. WILL LEAVE THE EXTENDED AS IS FOR NOW WITH ONLY  
SLIGHT CHANCE POPS NORTH ON TUESDAY AS THE GFS WOULD INDICATE...  
BUT WOULD NOT BE A BIT SURPRISED TO SEE THE ECMWF VERIFY (IT'S  
BEEN DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB AT HANDLING THE SYSTEMS COMING  
THROUGH LATELY).  
 
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AVIATION  
 
VFR THROUGH THE FORECAST...EXCEPT AFTER 00Z SUN IN ATL WHEN THE RAIN  
WILL BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD AND MVFR CIGS WILL ENTER THE AREA.  
EXPECT HIGH CLOUDS THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING WITH MID LEVEL MOISTURE  
MOVING IN DURING THE LATE MORNING/AFTERNOON. THERE IS A CHANCE OF  
RAIN AFTER 21Z IN THE ATL/CSG/MCN AREAS AND WILL ADD A PROB30 TO  
THOSE LOCATIONS AFTER 21Z. WINDS WILL REMAIN NORTHEAST LESS THAN 10  
KTS THROUGH SATURDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
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PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
ATHENS 43 62 47 52 44 / 0 30 90 90 40  
ATLANTA 46 61 48 54 46 / 0 40 90 70 30  
BLAIRSVILLE 37 57 43 50 42 / 0 20 80 80 40  
CARTERSVILLE 39 60 47 53 45 / 0 30 90 60 30  
COLUMBUS 45 60 51 62 47 / 0 50 90 50 20  
GAINESVILLE 44 61 46 50 44 / 0 30 90 80 40  
MACON 44 64 51 62 46 / 0 40 90 70 20  
ROME 39 61 47 56 45 / 0 30 80 60 40  
PEACHTREE CITY 39 61 47 56 43 / 0 40 90 60 30  
VIDALIA 44 66 53 63 50 / 0 20 90 80 30  
 
 
   
FFC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
25/17/19  
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