988  
FXUS63 KGRR 072109  
AFDGRR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009  
 
LATEST UPDATE...ALL SECTIONS BUT AVIATION...  
   
SYNOPSIS  
(400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
A WEAK AND DRY COLD FRONT MOVING EAST THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES REGION  
THIS EVENING WILL STALL IN A WEST TO EAST FASHION LATE TONIGHT OVER  
SOUTHERN MICHIGAN THEN LIFT BACK NORTH AS A WARM FRONT ON SUNDAY.  
 
ANOTHER MOSTLY SUNNY AND UNSEASONABLY WARM DAY CAN BE EXPECTED  
SUNDAY WITH HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MIDDLE 60S. WINDS WILL BE MUCH  
LIGHTER THAN ON SATURDAY.  
 
A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE WEST WILL BRING THE POSSIBILITY OF  
SOME RAIN SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY A THUNDERSTORM MONDAY AFTERNOON AND  
MONDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM  
(400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
(TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY)  
TEMPERATURES GOT A LITTLE WARMER THAN EXPECTED TODAY DESPITE LOW  
MIXING LEVEL HEIGHTS AROUND 900 MB. HAVE KEPT THAT IN MIND FOR  
SUNDAY/S HIGH TEMP FCST AND WENT MID 60S AGAIN.  
 
LOW CLOUDS NEVER REALLY MANAGED TO DEVELOP ALONG THE FRONT TODAY SO  
HAVE WENT WITH AN OPTIMISTIC SKY FCST TONIGHT AND SUNDAY. THAT  
SAID... THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL SEE SOME CLOUDS  
DEVELOPING ALONG THE BOUNDARY YET... ESPECIALLY LATE TONIGHT AND  
SUNDAY MORNING BEFORE THE BOUNDARY LIFTS BACK NORTH.  
 
THE NAM AND ECMWF ARE QUICKER THAN THE GFS IN PUSHING THE NEXT COLD  
FRONT THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. GFS IS ALSO MOST  
AGGRESSIVE WITH QPF IN RESPONSE TO NARROW BUT STRONG RIBBON OF MID  
LEVEL FGEN FORCING AND INSTABILITY. CONVECTIVE POST FRONTAL FGEN  
BANDS ARE VERY TOUGH TO NAIL IN BOTH TIME AND SPACE... SO FOR NOW  
HAVE MAINTAINED CHANCE POPS FOR RAIN SHOWERS AND ISOLD THUNDER OVER  
THE ENTIRE CWFA MONDAY AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. HIGHEST POPS MONDAY  
NORTHWEST AND HIGHEST POPS MONDAY NIGHT SOUTHEAST.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM  
(400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
(TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY)  
MAIN CHALLENGES IN THE LONG TERM ARE DETERMINING ANY LINGERING PCPN  
CHCS ON TUE MORNING WITH THE DEPARTING SYSTEM...AND HOW FAST TO  
BRING IN PCPN FOR THE END OF NEXT WEEK. ASIDE FROM THESE PCPN  
CHCS...MOST OF THE LONG TERM LOOKS DRY AND MILD.  
 
WE HAVE ADDED SOME RAIN BACK IN ACROSS THE SE HALF OF THE CWFA TUE  
MORNING. NEARLY ZONAL UPPER FLOW CURRENTLY IN PLACE IS EXPECTED TO  
AMPLIFY A BIT BY THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG TERM TUE MORNING. THE  
FIRST STRONGER TROUGH IN THE SERIES WILL BE MOVING EXITING THE STATE  
DURING THE DAY ON TUE. MODELS DIFFER A BIT IN THE STRENGTH AND  
RESULTING TIMING OF THE WAVE...BUT ALL LINGER PCPN INTO AT LEAST  
PART OF TUE. WE BELIEVE THE LESS AMPLIFIED AND QUICKER EURO AND 12Z  
GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN...WHICH WILL END PCPN BY TUE AFTERNOON.  
 
A FAIRLY DRY AND MILD PERIOD IS THEN EXPECTED AT LEAST LATE TUE  
THROUGH THU NIGHT...IF NOT INTO FRI NIGHT. LONG WAVE TROUGH WILL BE  
DIGGING ACROSS THE WRN HALF OF THE CONUS AS THE UPPER JET SPLITS AND  
TAKES SOME ENERGY NORTH. RIDGE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE ERN HALF OF THE  
US AND ALLOW FOR THE MILD WX.  
 
UNCERTAINTY MOVES INTO THE PICTURE AROUND FRI AND INTO SAT REGARDING  
THE TIMING OF THE NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM INTO THE AREA. GFS HAS SLOWED  
DOWN THE TIMING OF THE FRONT INTO THE AREA UNTIL NEXT SAT...VERY  
SIMILAR TO THE 00Z EURO. 12Z GFS ENSEMBLE IS SHOWING A SAT FRONTAL  
TIMING ALSO. NEW 12Z EURO HAS SPED THE FRONT UP AS THE NRN ENERGY  
THAT SPLITS IS SHOWN TO BE A BIT STRONGER AND FARTHER SOUTH. WE WILL  
SIDE WITH THE CONSENSUS AND MAINTAIN THE DRY FCST FOR FRI...AND ADD  
IN RAIN FOR SAT. THIS COULD EVEN BE EARLY IF THE TREND FOR THE SRN  
STREAM TROUGH IS TO CLOSE OFF MORE.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
(1252 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
VFR CONDITIONS WITH OCCASIONALLY GUSTY WINDS ARE EXPECTED THIS  
AFTERNOON. VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATED A FEW CLOUDS AROUND  
2K TO 3K FT ACROSS CENTRAL LOWER MI...SO INCLUDED A MENTION OF THOSE  
FOR MKG...GRR...AND LAN. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD CONTINUE  
FOR THOSE AFOREMENTIONED TAF SITES THROUGH THE PERIOD. MODELS ARE  
INDICATING AN INCREASE IN MOISTURE DURING THE MID TO LATE MORNING  
HOURS SUNDAY AND BEYOND... PARTICULARLY AROUND THE I-94 CORRIDOR...  
AND BR IS POSSIBLE FOR THE SOUTHERN TAFS AS RADIATIONAL COOLING  
PEAKS TOMORROW MORNING AND WINDS DIE OFF. NOT EXPECTING CONDITIONS  
TO GET WORSE THAN MVFR. DECIDED TO HOLD OFF ON MENTION OF LOWER  
CLOUDS IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE WARM FRONTAL PASSAGE LATE TOMORROW  
MORNING OR EARLY AFTERNOON...AS IT WILL BE CLOSE TO THE END OF THE  
PERIOD AND FUTURE TAF ISSUANCE WILL BETTER DETERMINE THIS THREAT.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
(400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
GRADIENT IS RELAXING WITH FRONTAL BOUNDARY NOW MOVING IN. WINDS AND  
WAVES WILL SUBSIDE RATHER QUICKLY LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY THIS  
EVENING. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WILL PROBABLY BE NEEDED AGAIN ON  
SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY AS SOUTH FLOW STRENGTHENS AGAIN AHEAD OF  
NEXT APPROACHING COLD FRONT.  
 
 
   
HYDROLOGY  
(400 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009)  
NARROW BAND OF QPF UP TO ONE HALF INCH POSSIBLE MONDAY AND MONDAY  
NIGHT. THIS SHOULD HAVE LITTLE IMPACT ON HYDRO.  
 
 
   
GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY ST. JOSEPH TO MANISTEE THROUGH 7 PM.  
 
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS: MEADE  
SHORT TERM: MEADE  
LONG TERM: NJJ  
AVIATION: HOVING/NJJ  
MARINE: MEADE  
HYDROLOGY: MEADE  
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