257  
FXUS63 KDTX 071654  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
1150 AM EST SAT NOV 7 2009  
 
   
AVIATION  
 
DRY AIRMASS IS PROVIDING VFR CONDITIONS ACROSS TAF SITES. SURFACE  
GRADIENT AHEAD OF A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE STRONG  
AND GUSTY SOUTHWEST FLOW THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. SOME SCATTERED CU  
MAY FORM WITH THE COLD FRONT PASSAGE. SURFACE RIDGING BEHIND FRONT  
WILL BRING LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS OVERNIGHT WHICH WILL BECOME  
SOUTHEASTERLY SUNDAY MORNING AS THE RIDGE SLIDES TO THE EAST.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
ISSUED 329 AM EST SAT NOV 7 2009  
 
SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT  
 
THE LATEST SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS A 982MB LOW OVER NORTHERN MANITOBA  
WITH A TROUGH AXIS EXTENDING FROM MINNESOTA INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS.  
THIS LOW IS ASSOCIATED WITH A MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE OVER SOUTHERN  
MANITOBA...WHICH IS FORECAST TO LIFT INTO NORTHERN ONTARIO TODAY.  
THIS WILL SEND THE TROUGH AXIS THROUGH SE MI LATE THIS AFTERNOON.  
MODEL SOLUTIONS CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH MOISTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG  
AND AHEAD OF THE SURFACE TROUGH. THE 00Z GFS WAS DRASTICALLY TOO  
MOIST FROM THE SFC THROUGH 925MB BASED ON UPSTREAM SOUNDINGS. THE  
NAM HAD A MUCH BETTER INITIALIZATION OF THE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE...BUT  
CONTINUES TO INDICATE UPSTREAM LOW CLOUD DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS NOT  
SUPPORTED BY LATEST OBSERVATIONS. GIVEN THE GENERAL LACK OF LARGE  
SCALE ASCENT AND APPARENT LACK OF MOISTURE...THE SURFACE TROUGH  
SHOULD PASS THROUGH LATE TODAY WITH LITTLE FANFARE. IN FACT...  
CONDITIONS UPSTREAM SUGGEST A FAIR AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE TODAY. DESPITE  
LIMITED MIXING DEPTHS...THE SOUTHERLY GRADIENT WILL SUPPORT FREQUENT  
GUSTS IN THE 25 TO 30 MPH RANGE THIS AFTERNOON. THIS WILL ADVECT THE  
WARM SURFACE TEMPS OBSERVED UPSTREAM YESTERDAY INTO SE MI...ALLOWING  
AFTERNOON HIGHS TO RISE INTO THE 60S /A GOOD 10 DEGREES ABOVE  
NORMAL/.  
 
WEAK HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD ACROSS SOUTHERN MICHIGAN TONIGHT  
FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE SURFACE TROUGH. SURFACE DRY AIR  
ADVECTION...CLEAR SKIES AND A WEAKENING GRADIENT WILL FOSTER BETTER  
RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS DURING THE OVERNIGHT. THUS...HAVE  
UNDERCUT MOS GUIDANCE A COUPLE DEGREES /CARRYING LOWS IN THE UPPER  
30S TO LOWER 40S/.  
 
LONG TERM...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY  
 
HIGH PRESSURE WILL EXPAND INTO THE GREAT LAKES ON SUNDAY...ALLOWING  
FOR A CONTINUATION OF WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. HIGHS IN THE  
LOW TO MID 60S WILL RUN MORE THAN 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. CLOUD  
COVER WILL START TO INCREASE LATE AS SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE  
NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM BEGINS TO ADVECT LOW/MID LEVEL MOISTURE  
NORTHWARD INTO MICHIGAN. MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW MORE POTENTIAL FOR LOW  
STRATUS DEVELOPING SUNDAY NIGHT AS OPPOSED TO SHALLOW GROUND FOG AS  
SURFACE DEWPOINTS MAKE A RUN AT 50 DEGREES. WILL THEREFORE HOLD  
PLENTY OF CLOUD COVER IN THE FORECAST OVERNIGHT...KEEPING MIN  
TEMPERATURES IN THE UPPER 40S TO NEAR 50. WILL KEEP AN EYE ON  
MOISTURE PROFILES OVER THE NEXT FEW MODEL CYCLES HOWEVER TO MAKE  
SURE FOG IS NOT WARRANTED INSTEAD.  
 
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE WILL LIFT UP INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES  
SUNDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF A WEAK UPPER WAVE MOVING EAST THROUGH CENTRAL  
CANADA AND THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS UPPER WAVE WILL DEEPEN BEFORE  
IT PUSHES INTO THE GREAT LAKES MONDAY/MONDAY NIGHT...AS UPPER PV  
ANOMALY DROPS INTO THE SYSTEM FROM THE NORTH PER LATEST GFS  
FORECAST. SURFACE FRONTAL BOUNDARY ACCOMPANYING THE SYSTEM WILL PUSH  
INTO NORTHWEST MICHIGAN BY MONDAY AFTERNOON...THEN ACROSS SOUTHEAST  
MICHIGAN MONDAY NIGHT. SOME INTERESTING DYNAMICS NOW LOOKING TO SET  
UP IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS SYSTEM IT PUSHES ACROSS LOWER MICHIGAN  
SUNDAY NIGHT PER LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE. MODELS NOW SHOW GOOD LOW/MID  
LEVEL FGEN OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN MONDAY NIGHT AS STRONG HIGH  
PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST HELPS TO INTENSIFY THE  
WIND FIELD/CONVERGENCE ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. ALSO LOOKING AT  
RIGHT ENTRANCE FORCING FROM A CANADIAN JET STREAK...AND INSTABILITY  
FROM A LOW-LEVEL JET. WITH MODELS ALSO SHOWING A PW SURGE TO OVER AN  
INCH AND A WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF A MORE DYNAMIC SYSTEM...HAVE  
INCREASED POPS TO HIGH CHANCE OVERNIGHT. THUNDER HAS ALSO BEEN ADDED  
TO THE FORECAST AS CROSS-SECTIONS REVEAL A PRETTY DEEP LAYER OF  
CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY. ALL MODELS HAVE SLOWED THE EASTWARD  
PROGRESSION OF THE UPPER TROUGH ONCE IT REACHES THE GREAT  
LAKES...WHICH MAKES SENSE GIVEN A TREND TOWARDS A DEEPER AND MORE  
AMPLIFIED SYSTEM. WITH THE TROUGH AND LOW-LEVEL FRONTAL BOUNDARY NOW  
EXPECTED TO LINGER OVER THE GREAT LAKES INTO TUESDAY...HAVE  
INCREASED POPS INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON. FURTHER REFINEMENTS TO  
POPS/QPF/WIND SPEEDS FOR MONDAY NIGHT/TUESDAY WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED  
IF MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND TOWARDS A DEEPER MORE DYNAMIC SYSTEM.  
 
STRONG HIGH PRESSURE TO OUR WEST LOOKS TO MIGRATE ACROSS MICHIGAN  
LATE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...PROVIDING A RETURN TO DRY WEATHER WITH  
MORE SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES. MODELS HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO RESOLVE  
THE SYNOPTIC PATTERN FOR THE END OF NEXT WEEK...AND HAVE OPTED TO  
KEEP THE INHERITED DRY FORECAST. WILL BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE NEXT  
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TO AFFECT US SOMETIME DURING THE FRIDAY-SUNDAY  
PERIOD...HOWEVER MODELS REMAIN WILDLY DIVERGENT WITH REGARD TO  
TIMING.  
 
MARINE...  
 
WINDS GUSTS IN THE 25 TO 30 KNOT RANGE WILL PERSIST ACROSS LAKE  
HURON THROUGH THE MORNING. WINDS WILL BEGIN TO DIMINISH LATER THIS  
MORNING AS WARM AIR LIMITS THE MIXING DEPTHS OVER THE WATER. THE  
GRADIENT WILL ALSO BEGIN TO RELAX IN THE AFTERNOON IN ADVANCE OF A  
WEAK SURFACE TROUGH. WINDS WILL FURTHER DIMINISH TONIGHT AS WEAK  
HIGH PRESSURE ADVANCES ACROSS LAKE HURON.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
 
LAKE HURON...  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...LHZ422-LHZ442-LHZ443...UNTIL NOON SATURDAY.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...OUTER SAGINAW BAY AND THE NEARSHORE WATERS  
FROM PORT AUSTIN TO HARBOR BEACH...UNTIL 4 PM SATURDAY.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...UNTIL NOON SATURDAY.  
 
MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...UNTIL NOON SATURDAY.  
 
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....DRC  
SHORT TERM...SC  
LONG TERM....HLO  
MARINE.......SC  
 
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