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FXUS65 KMSO 210309  
AFDMSO  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MISSOULA MT  
809 PM MST FRI NOV 20 2009  
   
UPDATE  
UPDATED EARLIER TONIGHT TO LOWER THE POPS ACROSS  
NORTHWEST MONTANA FROM 00Z TO 03Z. ALSO LOWERED SOME MIN  
TEMPERATURES TONIGHT.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
MODELS ARE SLOWER AT BRINGING THE SYSTEM INTO  
WESTERN MONTANA AND NORTH CENTRAL IDAHO TONIGHT. IN  
ADDITION...SATELLITE IMAGERY AND RADARS TO OUR WEST HAS SHOWN THAT  
THE SYSTEM IS MOVING SLOWER THEN EARLIER EXPECTED. SO UPDATED THE  
POPS AND WEATHER FOR TONIGHT TO SHOW THE SLOWER TREND. SOME  
LOCATIONS WERE AT THE FORECASTED LOW TEMPERATURE FOR TONIGHT AND  
OTHERS WERE WITHIN A COUPLE OF DEGREES. MOST LOCATIONS FROM  
MISSOULA NORTH NEVER WARMER UP TODAY...WITH OBSERVED HIGHS ABOUT  
6 DEGREES BELOW NUMERIC GUIDANCE. SO LOWERED A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS  
MAINLY ACROSS NORTHWEST MONTANA. REST OF THE FORECAST LOOKS TO BE  
ON TRACK. WILL CONTINUE THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR IDZ005-006  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
AN APPROACHING PACIFIC SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO  
LOWER CLOUDS DECKS AND INCREASE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES OVERNIGHT. AHEAD OF THE ADVANCING SURFACE COLD  
FRONT...SHOWERS WILL BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW BEFORE TURNING TO  
ALL SNOW AFTER 21/0600Z. EXPECT THE MOST INTENSE PERIODS OF  
PRECIPITATION ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONTAL PASSAGE BETWEEN  
21/0600Z-21/1200Z. CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO LOWER OVERNIGHT  
CAUSING MOUNTAINS AND PASSES TO BE OBSCURED.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
/ISSUED 301 PM MST FRI NOV 20 2009/  
 
DISCUSSION...COMPLEX WEATHER PATTERN SETTING UP OVER THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN REGION FOR THIS WEEKEND. BEEN AN INTERESTING DAY AS  
CLOUDS AHEAD OF APPROACHING SYSTEM WERE QUITE MORE INTENSE THAN  
THE MODELS HAD ADVERTISED. AS A RESULT...THE WARMING EXPECTED  
TODAY WAS LIMITED TO THE SOUTHERN MOST VALLEYS (HIGHER VALLEYS)  
THAT MIXED OUT EARLIER THIS MORNING AND ACHIEVED FULL MIXING  
DESPITE THE CLOUDS. CENTRAL AND NORTHERN MONTANA VALLEYS WERE  
INHIBITED BY THESE CLOUDS AND KEPT THE MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES  
TRAPPED IN THEIR VALLEYS. EXAMPLE...MISSOULA 37 DEGREES...HAMILTON  
54 AT 230 PM MST.  
 
THE AFOREMENTIONED WEATHER SYSTEM WILL MOVE OVER THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST THIS EVENING SPREADING PRECIPITATION FROM WEST TO EAST  
THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. WARM AIR AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT WILL  
KEEP SNOW LEVELS RATHER HIGH...THEN DROPPING TO MOST VALLEY FLOORS  
AFTER THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE AFTER MIDNIGHT. THE HIGHER VALLEYS  
OF THE NORTHERN CLEARWATER MOUNTAINS LOOK TO BE THE MOST IMPACTED  
BY ENOUGH ACCUMULATING SNOW TO WARRANT A WINTER HEADLINE.  
THEREFORE THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW  
ABOVE 3000 FEET WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. OTHER VALLEYS OF NORTH  
CENTRAL IDAHO AND WESTERN MONTANA CAN ALSO EXPECT TO SEE SOME  
LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS COME SATURDAY MORNING. AT THIS  
TIME...LOOKS LIKE THE BEST TIME FRAME FOR CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN  
VALLEYS OF WESTERN MONTANA TO SEE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE 2 AM  
THROUGH 9 AM...BUT NOT ENOUGH ACCUMULATIONS TO WARRANT HEADLINES.  
HOWEVER...THIS SNOW WILL IMPACT ANY TRAVELERS HEADED OVER THE  
CONTINENTAL DIVIDE PASSES. IN ADDITION...WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT  
WILL BLOW THE SNOW AROUND AND REDUCE VISIBILITIES AT  
TIMES...ESPECIALLY OVER THE PASSES.  
 
A SECOND WEATHER SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW WILL IMPACT THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN REGION SUNDAY. THIS SYSTEM IS LOOKING MORE IMPRESSIVE  
WITH EACH RUN...AND MAY BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF ACCUMULATING SNOW  
TO THE CLEARWATER MOUNTAINS AND PORTIONS OF THE CAMAS  
PRAIRIE...MAINLY GRANGEVILLE...GREER AND WHITEBIRD GRADES. WITH  
CURRENT WINTER HEADLINES OUT...HAVE OPTED TO HOLD OFF ON A WATCH  
BUT IF THE MODELS CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE THE STRENGTH AND POSITION  
OF THIS SECOND SYSTEM THE WAY THEY ARE NOW...WINTER WEATHER  
WATCHES MAY BE NECESSARY ONCE AGAIN. IN ADDITION...THE PLACEMENT  
OF THIS SECOND WAVE LOOKS GOOD FOR PORTIONS OF WESTERN AND  
SOUTHWEST MONTANA VALLEYS TO SEE ACCUMULATING SNOW TO THE VALLEY  
FLOORS. AGAIN...AMOUNTS DO NOT APPEAR TO BE HEADLINE WORTHY...BUT  
MAY IMPACT TRAVELERS. ANOTHER ROUND OF WIND IS EXPECTED WITH THIS  
SECOND SYSTEM...SO MORE VISIBILITY ISSUES FROM BLOWING AND  
DRIFTING SNOW ARE POSSIBLE.  
 
A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BEGIN TO BUILD OVER THE REGION  
MONDAY WITH THE RIDGE AXIS SETTLING OVER THE REGION BY WEDNESDAY.  
INITIALLY...THE RIDGE WILL BE WEAK ENOUGH TO ALLOW A FEW WEAK  
DISTURBANCES TO MOVE THROUGH THE REGION BOTH MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
THE MAIN FOCUS OF PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO BE ACROSS NORTHWEST  
MONTANA BUT SHOULD REMAIN FAIRLY LIGHT WITH LITTLE IN THE WAY OF  
ACCUMULATING SNOW. AS THE RIDGE AXIS MOVES OVERHEAD TUESDAY  
NIGHT...SHOWER ACTIVITY WILL DWINDLE. WITH STRENGTHENING  
INVERSIONS UNDER THIS STRONG UPPER LEVEL RIDGE...VALLEY FOG COULD  
BECOME AN ISSUE WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. HAVE GONE AHEAD AND ADDED PATCHY  
FOG TO THE FORECAST FOR THE TIME BEING BUT THE POTENTIAL FOR DENSE  
FOG...POTENTIALLY IMPACTING HOLIDAY TRAVEL IS NOT OUT OF THE  
QUESTION.  
 
FORECAST MODELS INDICATE ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE TROUGH IMPACTING THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES FRIDAY IN TO NEXT WEEKEND. THE DETAILS AND TIMING OF  
THIS SYSTEM REMAIN LOW FOR THE TIME BEING.  
 
AVIATION...AN APPROACHING PACIFIC SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO  
LOWER CLOUDS DECKS AND INCREASE PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. AHEAD OF THE ADVANCING  
SURFACE COLD FRONT...SHOWERS WILL BE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW BEFORE  
TURNING TO ALL SNOW AFTER 21/0600Z. PARTS OF NORTHWEST MONTANA AND  
NORTH CENTRAL IDAHO WILL SEE SHOWER ACTIVITY START EARLIER FRIDAY  
EVENING BEFORE CHANCES SPREAD ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF WESTERN  
MONTANA BY 21/0600Z. EXPECT THE MOST INTENSE PERIODS OF  
PRECIPITATION ALONG AND JUST BEHIND THE FRONTAL PASSAGE BETWEEN  
21/0600Z-21/1200Z. CEILINGS ARE EXPECTED TO LOWER OVERNIGHT  
CAUSING MOUNTAINS AND PASSES TO BE OBSCURED.  
 
 
   
MSO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MT...ID...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM PST SATURDAY FOR NORTHERN  
CLEARWATER MOUNTAINS-SOUTHERN CLEARWATER MOUNTAINS.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...KOLATA  
LONG TERM....MEAD/PALLISTER  
AVIATION...KOLATA  
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