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FXUS61 KGYX 080156  
AFDGYX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAY ME  
856 PM EST SAT NOV 7 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE MOVES EAST OF THE REGION TONIGHT. A WEAK  
COLD FRONT MOVES ACROSS THE REGION SUNDAY. ANOTHER AREA OF HIGH  
PRESSURE APPROACHES THE REGION SUNDAY NIGHT AND MOVES EAST OF THE  
REGION ON MONDAY. A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY THEN SETS UP ACROSS THE  
REGION MONDAY NIGHT WITH A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVING ALONG  
THE FRONT AND ACROSS THE REGION TUESDAY. THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL  
STORM IDA THEN MOVE UP THE COAST WEDNESDAY...MOVING EAST OF CAPE  
COD THURSDAY. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE APPROACHES THE REGION  
THURSDAY NIGHT AND THEN CROSSES THE REGION FRIDAY.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM SUNDAY MORNING/  
 
THE GRIDDED AND TEXT FORECASTS WERE UPDATED EARLIER THIS EVENING  
TO ACCOUNT FOR TRENDS IN TEMPERATURES AND CLOUDS.  
 
WATCHING A FAIRLY LARGE AREA OF WARM AIR ADVECTION CLOUDS APPROACHING  
FROM THE WEST. THE MOISTURE TRAPPED UNDER THE INVERSION SHOULD  
AFFECT MAINLY NORTHERN AND CENTRAL ZONES...AND THIS WAS ADDED TO  
THE FORECAST. SOUTH OF THIS...THE ALTOCUMULUS MAY BE MORE  
SCATTERED IN NATURE. WILL HAVE TO TRACK THE PROGRESS OF THE CLOUDS  
AND ADD MORE TO SOUTHERN ZONES AS TRENDS WARRANT.  
 
NOTED SOME WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS IN THE WARM AIR ADVECTION  
ACROSS ONTARIO AND WESTERN QUEBEC. 0000 UTC SOUNDINGS SUGGEST THAT  
THE COLUMN IS TOO DRY TO SUPPORT PRECIPITATION IN THE FORECAST  
AREA...AT LEAST INITIALLY. THE WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL MOISTEN THE  
COLUMN...BUT THE CROSS BARRIER FLOW MAY BE JUST ENOUGH FOR WIDELY  
SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS. DUE TO A LACK OF FORCING...  
LEFT THE MENTION OF PRECIPITATION OUT ELSEWHERE TONIGHT.  
 
TEMPERATURES DROPPED QUICKLY IN THE CLEAR SKIES THIS EVENING IN  
THE NORMALLY COLDER SPOTS. WILL PROBABLY SEE LOWS JUST BEFORE  
MIDNIGHT ACROSS NORTHERN SECTIONS...AND LOWS WERE ADJUSTED DOWN IN  
THESE AREAS. ELSEWHERE...A LIGHT SOUTHWEST FLOW MAY ALLOW  
TEMPERATURES TO DROP A COUPLE OF DEGREES THIS EVENING BEFORE  
BECOMING STEADY. THIS WAS ALSO ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE UPDATED  
FORECAST.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /6 AM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM SUNDAY/  
 
CLOUDS SHOULD DISSIPATE FROM WEST TO EAST AROUND SUNRISE GIVE OR TAKE  
A COUPLE OF HOURS AND THIS SHOULD LEAVE US WITH A MOSTLY SUNNY SUNDAY.  
EXPECT LIGHT WINDS OUT OF THE WEST AFTER FRONTAL PASSAGE WITH SUNDAYS  
TEMPERATURES SOME 10 TO 15 DEGREES ABOVE SEASONABLE NORMALS.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
TO SAY THAT THE MODELS ARE IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THE EXTENDED  
FORECAST WOULD BE A HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT. LONG TERM MODELS TRACK  
FAIRLY CLOSE THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH HIGH PRESSURE DOMINATING  
THE WEATHER OVER THE REGION. THINGS FALL APART PRETTY QUICKLY  
AFTER THAT THOUGH.  
 
STARTING WITH THE 12Z GFS. AT 00Z WEDNESDAY THE GFS HAS THE  
REMNANTS OF IDA OVER THE CAROLINAS...ALONG WITH A COLD FRONT  
MOVING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES. THE GFS MERGES THESE TWO SYSTEMS  
JUST SOUTH OF CAPE COD BY 18Z WEDNESDAY...WITH OVERRUNNING PUSHING  
WELL INTO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. THIS IS WHERE THINGS TAKE A TURN.  
THE GFS BASICALLY HALTS THE SYSTEM AND DEEPENS IT. THIS DRAGS COLD  
AIR INTO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SYSTEM AND PRODUCES OVER AN INCH OF  
QPF IN THE FORM OF SNOW...OR A RAIN/SNOW MIX. PRECIPITATION WOULD  
CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY ON THURSDAY BEFORE THE SYSTEM MIGRATES  
EAST OF THE AREA.  
 
THE 12Z ECMWF HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT SOLUTION. AGAIN...STARTING AT  
00Z WEDNESDAY THE ECMWF HAS THE REMNANTS OF IDA OVER MISSISSIPPI  
AND ALABAMA. IT ALSO HAS THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER THE EASTERN  
GREAT LAKES. THE MODEL THEN BUILDS HIGH PRESSURE INTO THE OHIO  
RIVER VALLEY...WHICH PUSHES THE REMNANTS OF IDA OFF THE SOUTH  
CAROLINA COAST BY 00Z. THE RESULT FOR NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND ON  
THURSDAY IS HIGH PRESSURE AND PLENTY OF SUN.  
 
BELIEVE THAT THE ECMWF HAS A BETTER HANDLE ON THE FORECAST AND IS  
MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THE LARGE SCALE FEATURES. WILL FOLLOW  
CLOSELY TO THE HPC GUIDANCE WHICH RELIES HEAVILY ON THE ECMWF AND  
DISCOUNTS THE GFS.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /02Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/  
 
IN THE NEAR TERM /TONIGHT/...VFR CONDITIONS CONTINUE THIS EVENING.  
WATCHING A FAIRLY LARGE ARE OF STRATOCUMULUS TRAPPED UNDER THE  
WARM AIR ADVECTION INDUCED INVERSION. THE GENERAL MOTION HAVE BEEN  
TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST...AND WILL LIKELY AFFECT KLEB AND KAUG.  
 
THE INVERSION APPEARS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH TO KEEP CEILINGS AT VFR.  
THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THE CLOUDS WILL BREAK QUICKLY ENOUGH LATE  
TONIGHT TO ALL RADIATIONAL FOG TO FORM AT KLEB BETWEEN 0900 AND  
1200 UTC. THIS MAY BE A LONG SHOT AS THE AIR IS DRY AND BREAKS IN  
THE CLOUDS MAY HAVE HARD TO COME BY.  
 
IN THE SHORT TERM /SUNDAY/...EXPECTING VFR CONDITIONS.  
 
LONG TERM...FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL MOVE THROUGH ON WEDNESDAY  
PRODUCING RAIN SHOWERS AND SOME BRIEF MVFR/IFR CONDITIONS.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
IN THE NEAR TERM /TONIGHT/...WINDS ARE NEARING SMALL CRAFT LEVELS  
IN THE COASTAL WATERS...ESPECIALLY ON THE OCEAN. WITH SURFACE HIGH  
PRESSURE MOVING OFF THE MID ATLANTIC COAST...THE GRADIENT IN THE  
RETURN SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL INCREASE TONIGHT. THE MIXED LAYER IN  
THE WARM AIR ADVECTION PATTERN IS FAIRLY LOW...AND THIS SHOULD CAP  
WINDS OVER THE OCEAN AT 25 TO 30 KNOTS IN GUSTS.  
 
JUST ABOVE THE INVERSION...WINDS REACH 30 KNOTS AT ABOUT 6000  
FEET. WOULD EXPECT TO REMAIN WELL ABOVE THE INVERSION AND THIS  
WILL KEEP WINDS OUT OF THE GALE RANGE. THE FAVORABLE FETCH WILL  
BRING SEAS ABOVE 5 FEET ACROSS THE OCEAN TONIGHT AND CLOSE TO 5  
FEET AT THE MOUTH OF THE BAYS.  
 
IN THE SHORT TERM /SUNDAY/...EXPECT TO GO BELOW SCA CRITERIA  
SUNDAY MORNING BEFORE NOONTIME.  
 
LONG TERM...DO NOT EXPECT ANY FLAGS IN THE LONG TERM.  
 
 
   
GYX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
ME...NONE.  
NH...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 AM TO 9 AM EST SUNDAY FOR  
ANZ150>154.  
 
 
 
 
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