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FXUS65 KREV 071047  
AFDREV  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RENO NV  
247 AM PST SAT NOV 7 2009  
   
SHORT TERM  
 
MAIN UPPER LOW CONTINUES SPINNING IN THE GULF OF ALASKA WITH COLD  
AND UNSTABLE AIRMASS OVER THE PACIFIC NW AND EMBEDDED VORT ENERGY  
PASSING OVERHEAD. AN UPPER LEVEL FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER  
JET MAX SHOWS UP WELL ON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY CURRENTLY OVER NRN  
CA. THIS FEATURE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VERY LIGHT RAIN THAT  
CONTINUES OVER THE SIERRA FROM LAKE TAHOE NORTH. IR SATELLITE AND  
RADAR IMAGERY STRUGGLE AT SEEING THE LIGHT PRECIP AS IT IS QUITE  
SHALLOW...WHICH IS EVIDENT BY THE 07/00Z KREV SOUNDING INDICATING  
VERY DRY AIR ABOVE 700 MB. LATEST MODELS SHOW PV ADVECTION  
CONTINUING IN THE SAME REGION UNTIL A LITTLE AFTER 12Z...SO KEPT  
SHOWERS GOING FROM TAHOE NORTH UNTIL AFTER SUNRISE. SOME VIRGA MAY  
REACH THE LEESIDE VALLEYS BUT NOT EXPECTING ENOUGH VERTICAL  
VELOCITY FOR RAIN TO REACH THE SURFACE.  
 
WEAK TROUGHINESS CONTINUES OVER THE WEST COAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND  
WITH EMBEDDED VORT ENERGY AND UPPER LEVEL MOISTURE BRINGING  
VARIABLE CLOUDINESS. NORTH LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BRING COLD AIR  
ADVECTION OVER WRN NV THROUGH SUNDAY KEEPING TEMPERATURES RIGHT  
AROUND NORMAL...IN THE MID TO UPPER 50S FOR VALLEY LOCATIONS.  
 
A STRONGER UPPER SHORTWAVE APPROACHES THE PACIFIC NW COAST ON  
MONDAY AMPLIFYING A RIDGE OVER THE WEST COAST AND INCREASING  
SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT. THIS WILL BRING WARMING ALOFT AS WELL AS  
BETTER LOW LEVEL MIXING AND ALLOW VALLEY TEMPS TO CLIMB BACK NEAR  
THE 60 DEGREE MARK. THE INITIAL SHORTWAVE MOVES ONSHORE MONDAY  
NIGHT WITH A PRECIP BAND MOVING OVER NRN CA THAT QUICKLY  
DISSIPATES AS IT DOES SO. KEPT WITH SLIGHT CHANCE POPS OVER THE  
FAR NRN AND WRN ZONES BUT MOST PRECIP ACTIVITY IS NOT EXPECTED  
UNTIL THE LONG TERM. JORDAN  
 
   
LONG TERM...TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY  
 
MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH OVERALL PATTERN EARLY  
IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST THIS CYCLE...BUT JUST LIKE YESTERDAY THE  
MODELS BEGIN TO DIVERGE AFTER ABOUT 36 HOURS...AND TODAY THIS  
DIVERGENCE IS GREATER THAN YESTERDAY. MODELS SHOW A GENERAL TREND  
TOWARD SLOWING THE EASTWARD PROGRESSION OF THE POSITIVELY TILTED  
TROUGH INTO AND THROUGH THE RGN STARTING TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY. THIS  
WOULD TEND TO SUPPORT LOWER POPS FOR TUESDAY AND HIGHER POPS FOR  
WEDNESDAY THAN CURRENTLY IN THE FORECAST. FOR NOW HAVE OPTED TO  
LEAVE TUESDAY AS IS AND JUST SHOW A SLIGHT INCREASE IN POPS FOR  
WEDNESDAY. AM NOT INCLINED TO JUMP TOO HEAVILY INTO WEDNESDAY AT  
THIS POINT GIVEN THE EVER CHANGING MODEL GUIDANCE.  
 
BY LATE WEDNESDAY THE OPERATIONAL GFS IS FASTEST WITH PUSHING THE  
TROUGH INTO THE RGN WHILE BOTH THE OPERATIONAL ECMWF AND CANADIAN  
MODELS HOLD THE BULK OF THE TROUGH OFF SHORE. THE CANADIAN IS NOW  
THE FIRST TO SPLIT A CLOSED LOW OFF OF THE SOUTHERN END OF THE  
TROUGH AND DROP IT INTO CA ON THURSDAY. MOST GEFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
AREA A BIT SLOWER THAN THE OPERATIONAL GFS AT THIS POINT AS WELL.  
 
DIVERGENCE INCREASES MORE BY THURSDAY. AS MENTIONED THE CANADIAN HAS  
SPLIT THE SYSTEM BY THEN WITH A LOW DROPPING SOUTH INTO CA. THIS HAS  
SOME SUPPORT FROM GEFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS. MEANWHILE THE ECMWF IS  
STARTING TO CLOSE A LOW OFF OVER SE OREGON INTO NW NV. LASTLY THE  
PROGRESSIVE GFS IS PUSHING THE TROUGH WELL EAST AND TRYING TO  
DEVELOP A SHORT WAVE RIDGE ALONG THE COAST. THE LOW DEVELOPS IN THE  
ECMWF AND REMAINS IN PLACE OVER NE NV/SE IDAHO ON FRIDAY. BY THEN  
THE GFS IS DEVELOPING A WEAK LOW OVER NE NV AS WELL BUT DOES NOT  
CLOSE IT OFF. THIS LOW IS MUCH STRONGER/COLDER IN THE ECMWF  
SOLUTION. GIVEN THE VAST DIFFERENCES IN THE MODEL SOLUTIONS AFTER  
DAY 5 HAVE OPTED TO MAKE ONLY A FEW VERY MINOR CHANGES TO THE  
FORECAST AFTER WEDNESDAY.  
 
SUBSEQUENT SHIFTS WILL LIKELY NEED TO PUSH POPS A LITTLE MORE INTO  
WEDNESDAY AND POSSIBLY EVEN THURSDAY GIVEN CURRENT TRENDS. GFS TENDS  
TO BE A BIT MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN OTHER SOLUTIONS AND GIVEN THAT  
ECMWF IS TYPICALLY A LEADING MODEL THINK ITS SOLUTION OF SLOWING THE  
UPPER TROUGH AND DEVELOPING A CLOSED LOW COULD WIN OUT. THIS WOULD  
BE A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN CANADIAN/GFS/GEFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS.  
HOWEVER WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SUPPORT FROM OTHER MODELS IN  
SUBSEQUENT RUNS. MLF  
 
   
AVIATION  
 
SCATTERED MVFR CONDITIONS IN SHOWERS LIKELY THROUGH THE EARLY MRNG  
FOR AREAS OF THE SIERRA FROM TAHOE NORTH AS CIGS WILL OCCASIONALLY  
DROP BELOW 3K FT. THROUGH THE DAY THE LOW LVL MSTR WILL BEGIN TO DRY  
OUT AND VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD RETURN FOR ALL AREAS BY EARLY  
AFTERNOON. EAST OF THE SIERRA EXPECT VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH THE DAY.  
 
LOW LVL WINDS BECOME EASTERLY LATE TONIGHT SO LIKELIHOOD OF ANY FOG  
DEVELOPING IN VCNTY KTRK IS LIMITED AND WILL NOT MENTION FOR  
TONIGHT. MLF  
 
 
   
REV WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NV...NONE.  
CA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
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