423  
FXCN01 CWAO 312100  
 
MAIN WX DISCUSSION  
 
UPPER LEVEL PATTERN  
 
PROGRSSV PATTRN OF UPR TROUGHS OVR MID LTTDS; MODLS ENCOUNTER PROBLEMS FM MID PD  
ONWD WITH SYS BECOMG MATURE OVR CNTR OF CONTINENT, EVRY MODL ACTG DIFFRNTLY  
WITH PHASG OF S/W ENRGY STREAMG ACRS SRN PRAIRIES AND FM U.S. PLAINS.  
 
PROBLMS TOO WITH AS NEWLY FORMED T.S. CHANTAL ENTERS THE MID LTTD CIRCLTN NR  
NF. GEM MODLS TENDENCY IS TO INTEGRATE RAPDLY CHANTAL TO FORM ONE POWRFL N  
ATLNTC STORM NE OF NF BY T+36, AND NRLY VRTCL S OF GRNLD BY END OF PD. FOREIGN  
MODLS KEEP UPR CENTR ASOCTD WITH MID LATTD UPR TROF DISTNCT FM REMNT OF  
TROPCL STORM, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO.  
 
OVR THE ARCTC THE SITTN IS EASIER, WITH UPR LO MOVG PLACIDLY N OF VICTORIA  
ISLD. MODL DIFFR WITH DEGREE OF INTRUSION OF COLD AIR ACRS VICTORIA ISLD AND  
POSN OF DFZN ACRS WRN BAFFIN.  
 
T.S. CHANTAL..  
COMPARSN OF SATPIX WITH GEMREG OUTGOING FLUX SHOWS GEMREG TO BE A TAD ON THE  
SLOW SIDE WITH CHANTAL, THUS KEEPG THE STORM LONGER OVR WARMR WTRS. YET GEMREG  
RENDERS REALISTCLY THE STORM'S EVLTN AS OF NOW. ALSO ON THE SIDE OF GEMREG IN  
THE SHORT TERM WE NOTE GOOD CONCRDNC BTN CURRNT SAT PIX AND AREAS OF MODL CVCTV  
FORCG ELSW OFF ATLNTC CST. GFS AND NAM/WRF TRACKG CHANTAL FRTHR W THAN EURPNS  
AND GEM'S BUT BCS OF THEIR INTLZTN OF THE STORM, FRTHR WEST THAN THAT OF GEM  
MODLS AT 12Z THIS MORNG.  
 
OVRALL OUR THINKG HASN'T CHANGED, CURRNT INTGRTN OF GEM MODLS GIVE A  
GOOD IDEA OF TRACK AND ASOCTD PPCN UP TO 24H, BUT UNDERGOES XTRATRPCL TRNSTN TOO  
RAPDLY WITH OVRDEEPNG AND ENLARGING OF THE TROPICAL FEAT AT EXPENSE OF LARGER  
NON-INTNSFYG LO TO THE NORTH. HENCE BY T+36 GEMS TOO DEEP, AND TOO SLOW AND FAR  
WEST WITH THE REMANTS OF THE TROPCL STORM. A BLEND OF UKMET/NAM APPEARS A BETTR  
CHOICE NOW BYD T+24.  
 
COLD FNT ERN QC..  
CURRNT WV/IR SAT PIX FIT WELL GEMREG UPR CIRCLTN AND PATTRN OF CVTV PCPN OVR  
QC'S N/SHORE AND SRN LABDR, WHICH GIVES SM CONFDNC IN FCST FOR LATR EVLTN OF  
REMNANTS OF T.S. CHANTAL, AS BAROCLNC FORCNG WILL BEGIN TO ACT DECISVRLY EARLY  
WED OVR SERN NF.  
 
SRN QC..  
CURRNT TSTM VC MTL WAS A BIT OF A SURPRISE.. MODL HAD THE INSTBLTY AND THE ENRGY  
BUT WAS DFNTLY TOO DRY WITH FCST DWPTS OF 15C OR LESS.. NOT UNLIKE WHAT WE SEE  
IN WRM SCTR OVR PRAIRIES MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.  
 
SYS DEEPNG AND OCCLDG OVR PRAIRIES/HDSNBA..  
MODLS AGREE STGLY ON ONE ASPECT OF THIS STORM.. BY END OF PD THEY ALL END UP  
WITH A DEEP OCCLUDED SYS, VERTCLY STACKED OVR WRN PORTN OF HDSNBA. YET THEY  
DISPLY QUITE A RANGE OF TRACK EARLY IN PD AND FINAL POSNS BY T+48. BCS OF  
APPRNTLY BETTER INTLZTN OF NRN AB UPR LO BY ECMWF, SUGGSTG DOUBL UPR LO  
STRCTR, WE LEAN TWD MORE SLY TRACK OF THIS MODL BY T+24, EVN THOUGH IT  
APPEARS AS AN OUTLIER, AND A BLEND OF ECMWF/GEMREG BY END OF PD, ABOUT AS  
DEEP AS GEMREG WITH A POSN FURTHR W THAN UKMET/GFS (DEEPEST MODLS, FRTHR  
EAST) AND FRTHR S THAN GEMREG. SVR WX NOT REALLY DEVLPG YET OVR SRN PRAIRIES  
UNDR THRML RDG, BUT IS ADVRTZD BY MODL OBJCTV ASSESSMNT. SAME SCNRIO FOR NWRN  
ONTARIO WED.  
 
ARCTC..  
MODLS NOT AS DIFFRNT THAN OVR PRAIRIES/HDSNBA. BLV IN SLGTLY DEEPR SRN PORTION  
OF UPR LO OVR NUNAVUT AND DFZN FRTHR EAST TWD BAFFIN, WITH SHIFT IN QPF ACCRDG  
TO ADJSTMNT.  
 
PAC CST..  
NEAR UNANIMITY OF MODLS WITH APPROACHG UPR LO, WITH XCPN OF SLOWR NAM WRF. GEM  
GUIDNC FINE ALG CST AND NRN BC INTRR; SIMILARLY OVR YUKON/NWT WITH WDSPRD  
INSTBLTY BUT WEAK DYNMCS.  
 
END/GIGUERE  
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