822  
WTNT45 KNHC 112034  
TCDAT5  
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIFTEEN DISCUSSION NUMBER 1  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL152007  
500 PM EDT THU OCT 11 2007  
 
THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC EAST OF BERMUDA HAS  
BEEN MAINTAINING STEADY DEEP CONVECTION NEAR THE CENTER FOR ABOUT  
12 HOURS OR SO...AND DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB AND SAB AT  
18Z HAVE RISEN TO T1.5. ON THIS BASIS...ADVISORIES ARE INITIATED ON  
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIFTEEN. AN ASCAT PASS NEAR 14Z SUGGESTS THAT  
MAXIMUM WINDS ARE NEAR 30 KT.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS 075/14. THE CYCLONE IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF  
AN UPPER LOW THAT IS PRODUCING STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW OVER THE  
CENTER. GLOBAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL BE  
REPLACED BY EVEN STRONGER NORTHERLIES OVER THE NEXT 24-36 HOURS.  
IN THIS STRONG SHEAR ENVIRONMENT...THE MOTION OF THE CYCLONE WILL  
DEPEND ON HOW MUCH CONNECTION THE CENTER MAINTAINS WITH THE FLOW  
ALOFT. THE 12Z RUNS OF THE GLOBAL MODELS SEEM TO HAVE ALREADY  
SEPARATED THE CENTER FROM THE DEEP CONVECTION...WHICH OF COURSE  
HASN'T HAPPENED YET. AS A RESULT...MY FORECAST TAKES THE CYCLONE A  
LITTLE FARTHER EAST THAN MOST OF THE OBJECTIVE GUIDANCE. BEFORE  
TOO LONG...HOWEVER...THE SHEAR SHOULD PREVAIL...LEAVING THE  
LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION BEHIND TO MEANDER UNTIL THE NEXT FRONTAL  
SYSTEM ARRIVES IN THE AREA IN ABOUT TWO DAYS.  
 
WITH STRONG SHEAR FORECAST TO PERSIST OVER THE CYCLONE...LITTLE OR  
NO STRENGTHENING IS EXPECTED. THE OFFICICAL FORECAST IS IN GOOD  
AGREEMENT WITH THE SHIPS AND HWRF GUIDANCE. THE GFDL DOES BRING  
THE DEPRESSION TO STORM STRENGTH...BUT THERE IS ONLY A VERY SHORT  
WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO OCCUR.  
 
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THE LOW-LEVEL VORTICITY FROM KAREN'S  
REMNANTS HAS PLAYED A ROLE IN THE GENESIS OF THIS CYCLONE.  
HOWEVER...THE EVIDENCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO ATTACH THAT NAME TO  
THIS SYSTEM.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 11/2100Z 30.1N 50.5W 30 KT  
12HR VT 12/0600Z 30.1N 49.0W 30 KT  
24HR VT 12/1800Z 30.0N 48.0W 30 KT  
36HR VT 13/0600Z 30.0N 48.0W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW  
48HR VT 13/1800Z 31.0N 47.5W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW  
72HR VT 14/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 
 
FORECASTER FRANKLIN  
 
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