635  
WTPZ45 KNHC 151500  
TCDEP5  
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIFTEEN-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 3  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP152007  
800 AM PDT MON OCT 15 2007  
 
EARLY MORNING VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT THE  
CENTER IS EXPOSED EAST OF THE LARGE AREA OF COLD CLOUDS TOPS...DUE  
TO MODERATE EASTERLY SHEAR. THIS POSITION IS SLIGHTLY SOUTHEAST OF  
THE EARLIER ESTIMATES AND SUGGESTS THAT THE DEPRESSION MOVED VERY  
LITTLE OVERNIGHT. LIGHTNING DATA REVEAL THAT THE AREA OF ACTIVE  
CONVECTION IS RATHER SMALL...WITH MOST OF THE COLD CLOUDS BEING  
ASSOCIATED WITH CIRRUS OUTFLOW TO THE WEST.  
 
DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM BOTH AGENCIES SUPPORT TROPICAL STORM  
STRENGTH...BUT THE CENTER LOCATIONS OF THESE FIXES WERE CLOSER TO  
THE DEEP CONVECTION. SINCE THE VISIBLE IMAGERY SHOWS THE CENTER IS  
FARTHER EAST...THE INITIAL INTENSITY WILL REMAIN 30 KT. MOST OF  
THE DYNAMICAL MODELS AND THE SHIPS GUIDANCE ARE LESS BULLISH IN  
DECREASING THE EASTERLY SHEAR OVER THE CYCLONE. IN FACT...THE  
SHIPS GUIDANCE KEEPS THE SHEAR 15 KT OR GREATER THROUGHOUT MOST OF  
THE FIVE-DAY FORECAST PERIOD. THE NEW INTENSITY FORECAST IS  
LOWERED SLIGHTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND IS IN CLOSE  
AGREEMENT WITH THE ICON CONSENSUS.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATE IS 330/2. THE DEPRESSION IS FORECAST  
TO MOVE VERY LITTLE DURING THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS. THE WEAK STEERING  
CURRENTS RESULT FROM THE LACK OF A STRONG SUBTROPICAL RIDGE TO THE  
NORTH OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE...DUE TO A TROUGH APPROACHING THE  
WEST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES. AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS  
DISCUSSION...IT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISING TO SEE SOME EASTWARD MOTION  
OF THE DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...AS IT COULD GET  
PULLED EASTWARD BY A LARGE LOW- TO MID-LEVEL CYCLONIC GYRE NEAR  
MEXICO. LATER IN THE FORECAST PERIOD...AS THE TROUGH  
MOVES EASTWARD...WEAK RIDGING IS FORECAST BUILD NORTH OF THE  
CYCLONE....WHICH SHOULD INDUCE A SLOW NORTHWESTWARD MOTION. THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST GENERALLY FOLLOWS THE GFDL...HWRF...AND GFS  
SOLUTIONS. HOWEVER...THERE IS A LARGE SPREAD IN THE FORWARD MOTION  
OF THE CYCLONE IN THESE MODELS. FOR NOW...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS  
NEAR THE CONSENSUS OF THOSE MODELS...WHICH IS ALSO CLOSE TO THE  
PREVIOUS NHC FORECAST.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 15/1500Z 15.2N 108.9W 30 KT  
12HR VT 16/0000Z 15.3N 108.9W 35 KT  
24HR VT 16/1200Z 15.6N 108.9W 40 KT  
36HR VT 17/0000Z 15.9N 108.9W 45 KT  
48HR VT 17/1200Z 16.3N 109.0W 45 KT  
72HR VT 18/1200Z 16.9N 109.4W 45 KT  
96HR VT 19/1200Z 17.5N 110.0W 45 KT  
120HR VT 20/1200Z 18.3N 111.0W 40 KT  
 

 
FORECASTER BROWN  
 
 
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