591  
WTNT41 KNHC 280855  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SIXTEEN DISCUSSION NUMBER 2  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL162007  
500 AM EDT SUN OCT 28 2007  
 
THE CENTER OF THE DEPRESSION IS DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY ON INFRARED OR  
NIGHT-VIS IMAGERY. RECENT MICROWAVE PASSES ALSO ARE NOT  
CONCLUSIVE...BUT SUGGEST THAT THE DEPRESSION IS CONTINUING ON ITS  
PREVIOUS TRACK...WITH AN INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE OF 300/6. DEEP  
CONVECTION NEAR THE CENTER LACKS ANY APPRECIABLE BANDING...AND A  
RECENT ASCAT PASS DOES NOT INDICATE THAT ANY STRENGTHENING HAS  
OCCURRED. WITH AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW IMPARTING WESTERLY SHEAR OVER THE  
CYCLONE...THE ENVIRONMENT DOES NOT FAVOR MUCH DEVELOPMENT IN THE  
SHORT TERM. GLOBAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE UPPER LOW WILL WASH OUT  
IN A COUPLE OF DAYS...LEAVING THE CYCLONE UNDER A LESS HOSTILE  
UPPER PATTERN...BUT THE ENVIRONMENT NEVER APPEARS TO BE IDEAL FOR  
DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDITION...THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND  
INTERACTIONS OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS THAT WOULD HINDER  
STRENGTHENING. THE GFDL AND HWRF INTENSITY FORECASTS...WHICH  
SUGGEST A MORE VERTICALLY-CONNECTED CYCLONE THAN APPEARS TO  
EXIST...ARE LARGELY BEING DISCOUNTED. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS IN  
GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE LGEM.  
 
TRACK FORECASTING OF WEAK SYSTEMS IN SHEARED ENVIRONMENTS IS  
PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING...AND THE AVAILABLE MODEL GUIDANCE  
REFLECTS THIS UNCERTAINTY. THE PRIMARY SYNOPTIC PLAYERS ARE THE  
UPPER-LOW ALREADY MENTIONED...A MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE  
SOUTHWESTERN ATLANTIC...A BROAD LOW-LEVEL CYCLONIC ENVELOPE  
SURROUNDING THE DEPRESSION...AND A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL SHORTWAVE  
TROUGH FORECAST TO MOVE INTO THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES IN ABOUT  
FOUR DAYS. THE GFDL AND HWRF LIE ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE  
GUIDANCE ENVELOPE...TAKING THE CYCLONE ACROSS HISPANIOLA AND  
THROUGH THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS IN 2-3 DAYS. THIS APPEARS TO RESULT  
FROM AN OVERLY STRONG INTERACTION WITH THE UPPER LOW. ANOTHER  
SCENARIO IS FOR THE DEPRESSION TO TURN TEMPORARILY TO THE NORTHWEST  
IN RESPONSE TO THE UPPER-LOW...BUT THEN BEND BACK TO THE  
WEST-NORTHWEST IN A COUPLE DAYS AROUND THE BROAD LOW-LEVEL  
GYRE...BEFORE BEING DEFLECTED NORTHEASTWARD WHEN THE SHORT WAVE  
ARRIVES ON DAYS 4-5. THIS IS THE SOLUTION OF THE UKMET. ON THE  
LEFT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE ARE THE BAM MODELS AND THE  
GFS...WHICH TAKE A RELATIVELY WEAK AND ILL-DEFINED LOW  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD UNTIL THE MID-LATITUDE SHORT WAVE ARRIVES AND  
SLOWLY RECURVES THE CYCLONE. THIS IS THE SOLUTION FAVORED BY THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST. IT IS WORTH REITERATING THAT THE UNCERTAINTY  
LEVEL IS HIGH.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 28/0900Z 16.2N 72.1W 30 KT  
12HR VT 28/1800Z 17.0N 73.2W 30 KT  
24HR VT 29/0600Z 17.9N 74.6W 35 KT  
36HR VT 29/1800Z 18.9N 76.3W 35 KT  
48HR VT 30/0600Z 19.7N 77.7W 40 KT  
72HR VT 31/0600Z 21.5N 80.0W 50 KT  
96HR VT 01/0600Z 23.0N 79.0W 40 KT  
120HR VT 02/0600Z 25.0N 77.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 

 
FORECASTER FRANKLIN  
 
 
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