650  
WTNT41 KNHC 290242  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 6  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL162007  
1100 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2007  
 
NOEL HAS NOT BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS  
ALTHOUGH IT CONTINUES TO PRODUCE STRONG CONVECTION PRIMARILY IN  
CLUSTERS OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION. SOME OF  
THIS CONVECTION HAS BEEN SPREADING OVER HISPANIOLA AND IS LIKELY  
GENERATING VERY HEAVY RAINS OVER PORTIONS OF THAT ISLAND. DVORAK  
INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE 45 KT FROM TAFB AND SAB...BUT BASED ON THE  
EARLIER AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 50  
KT. ANOTHER RECONNAISSANCE PLANE IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE NOEL  
AROUND 0600 UTC TO GIVE A NEW ESTIMATE OF THE STRENGTH AND POSITION  
OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE.  
 
IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIX THE LOCATION OF THE CIRCULATION CENTER BASED  
SOLELY ON CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE IMAGERY. UTILIZING POSITION  
ESTIMATES FROM EARLIER SSM/I AND AMSR-E MICROWAVE IMAGERY...THE  
INITIAL MOTION IS A RATHER UNCERTAIN 330/4. NOEL IS APPARENTLY  
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE EASTERN PORTION OF A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL  
CYCLONIC CIRCULATION WITH A WEAKENING SUBTROPICAL ANTICYCLONE A  
LITTLE FARTHER TO THE NORTH. BOTH OF THESE FEATURES ARE FORECAST  
TO WEAKEN AS A MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE  
NORTHWEST. THIS STEERING PATTERN EVOLUTION SHOULD CAUSE NOEL TO  
GRADUALLY TURN NORTHWARD IN A FEW DAYS. THE DYNAMICAL MODELS ARE  
BASICALLY CLUSTERING INTO TWO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. THE GFS AND THE  
ECMWF SUGGEST A WEAKER CYCLONE MOVING ON A GENERALLY  
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK. HOWEVER...THE GFS SOLUTION LOOKS  
QUESTIONABLE SINCE IT SPLITS NOEL INTO TWO LOWER-TROPOSPHERIC  
VORTICITY MAXIMA WITHIN A DAY OR SO AND DEVELOPS A THIRD CENTER  
FARTHER TO THE NORTHEAST WITHIN 72 HOURS. THE OFFICIAL TRACK  
FORECAST IS CLOSE TO A CONSENSUS OF THE GFDL...GFDN...HWRF...U.K.  
MET AND NOGAPS TRACKS. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PREVIOUS NHC  
TRACK.  
 
THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW HAS BEEN IMPARTING SOME SOUTHWESTERLY SHEARING  
ON THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WHICH IS INHIBITING AN INCREASE IN  
ORGANIZATION AT THIS TIME. DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT THIS  
LOW WILL SOON FILL...CREATING AN UPPER-LEVEL WIND ENVIRONMENT MORE  
CONDUCIVE FOR STRENGTHENING. A COMPLICATING FACTOR IS HOW MUCH THE  
INTERACTION WITH THE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN OF HAITI AND EASTERN CUBA  
WILL DISRUPT THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL. BY DAYS 3-5...INCREASING  
WESTERLY SHEAR SHOULD INTERRUPT THE INTENSIFICATION PROCESS...AND  
BY THE END OF THE PERIOD THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE LOSING ITS TROPICAL  
CHARACTERISTICS AS IT INTERACTS WITH A FRONTAL ZONE.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 29/0300Z 17.1N 72.1W 50 KT  
12HR VT 29/1200Z 18.3N 73.2W 50 KT...INLAND OVER HAITI  
24HR VT 30/0000Z 19.7N 74.5W 60 KT...OVER WATER  
36HR VT 30/1200Z 21.0N 75.7W 55 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA  
48HR VT 31/0000Z 22.4N 76.1W 55 KT...OVER WATER  
72HR VT 01/0000Z 25.0N 76.0W 55 KT  
96HR VT 02/0000Z 28.0N 74.5W 50 KT  
120HR VT 03/0000Z 31.0N 72.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 
 
FORECASTER PASCH/ROBERTS  
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