597  
WTNT41 KNHC 300306  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 10  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL162007  
1100 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2007  
 
SO FAR...NOEL HAS NOT BECOME APPRECIABLY BETTER ORGANIZED ON  
SATELLITE IMAGES AND THE SYSTEM STILL HAS A BROAD AND SPRAWLING  
APPEARANCE. SOME CELLS OF DEEP CONVECTION HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING  
NEAR THE CENTER BUT THE STRONGEST THUNDERSTORMS ARE GENERALLY  
OCCURRING FARTHER TO THE NORTH. THE HOLGUIN RADAR IN CUBA ALSO  
INDICATED THAT THE STORM WAS NOT YET VERY WELL ORGANIZED.  
CIRRUS-LEVEL OUTFLOW IS WELL ESTABLISHED OVER THE EASTERN  
SEMICIRCLE BUT LIMITED OVER THE WESTERN PART OF THE TROPICAL  
CYCLONE. CURRENT INTENSITY IS HELD AT 45 KT WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE  
DVORAK ESTIMATES.  
 
THE CENTER IS NOT EASY TO FIND ON INFRARED IMAGES BUT A 1002 MB SHIP  
OR BUOY OBSERVATION NEAR 0000 UTC WAS LIKELY NOT FAR FROM THE  
CENTER. THE HOLGUIN RADAR WAS ALSO USEFUL IN LOCATING THE CENTER  
OF CIRCULATION. INITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE 315/11. THE  
TROPICAL CYCLONE IS CURRENTLY MOVING ON THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY  
OF A WEAKENING MID-LEVEL RIDGE. IN ABOUT 48 HOURS...A SHORTWAVE  
TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST IS FORECAST TO TURN NOEL  
NORTHWARD. THEREAFTER A NORTHEASTWARD ACCELERATION IN THE FLOW  
AHEAD OF THE TROUGH IS EXPECTED. THE CONSENSUS OF THE DYNAMICAL  
TRACK PREDICTION MODELS...IN PARTICULAR THE GFS...GFDL...HWRF...  
GFDN...AND NOGAPS...HAS SHIFTED TO THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS CYCLE  
AROUND THE POINT OF CLOSEST APPROACH TO THE FLORIDA COAST.  
ACCORDINGLY THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST HAS BEEN SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO  
THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE IN THE 36 TO 48 HOUR TIME FRAME...  
ALBEIT NOT QUITE AS FAR EAST AS THE MODEL CONSENSUS.  
 
THE NEARBY PRESENCE OF A WEAKENING UPPER-LEVEL CYCLONE IS PROBABLY  
STILL HAVING A SLIGHT INHIBITING EFFECT ON THE INTENSIFICATION OF  
NOEL. WATER VAPOR IMAGES SUGGEST THAT THIS UPPER LOW IS IN THE  
PROCESS OF DISSIPATING. THEREFORE SOME INCREASE IN STRENGTH IS  
LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS. THEREAFTER...WESTERLY  
VERTICAL SHEAR IS FORECAST TO BECOME PROHIBITIVELY STRONG AND THIS  
SHOULD HALT THE INTENSIFICATION. BY DAY 4 OR SOONER NOEL WILL BE  
EMBEDDED IN A STRONG BAROCLINIC ENVIRONMENT AND SHOULD BE  
TRANSFORMED INTO A STRONG EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.  
 
AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE MIAMI WFO...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS  
NOT BEING ISSUED AT THIS TIME FOR SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. HIGH WIND  
WATCHES ARE ALREADY IN EFFECT FOR MIAMI-DADE...BROWARD...AND PALM  
BEACH COUNTIES DUE TO THE EXPECTATION OF AN INCREASING PRESSURE  
GRADIENT PRODUCED BY THE COMBINATION OF A STRONG SURFACE HIGH  
BUILDING OVER THE EASTERN U.S. AND THE APPROACH OF NOEL.  
HOWEVER...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MAY STILL BE REQUIRED FOR  
SOUTHEAST FLORIDA EARLY TUESDAY....DEPENDING ON THE FORECAST TRACK  
AND WIND RADII OF THE TROPICAL STORM.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 30/0300Z 21.2N 75.0W 45 KT  
12HR VT 30/1200Z 22.2N 76.3W 50 KT  
24HR VT 31/0000Z 23.3N 77.6W 55 KT  
36HR VT 31/1200Z 24.4N 78.4W 55 KT  
48HR VT 01/0000Z 25.5N 78.5W 50 KT  
72HR VT 02/0000Z 28.5N 75.5W 45 KT  
96HR VT 03/0000Z 33.0N 70.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
120HR VT 04/0000Z 38.0N 64.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 

 
FORECASTER PASCH/ROBERTS  
 
 
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