761  
WTNT41 KNHC 301500  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 12  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL162007  
1100 AM EDT TUE OCT 30 2007  
 
VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY...RADAR IMAGERY FROM CAMAGUEY CUBA...AND  
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS CLEARLY INDICATE THAT THE CENTER OF NOEL  
REMAINS INLAND OVER EASTERN CUBA. PLENTY OF RAIN BANDS...  
HOWEVER...STILL EXTEND WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER IN THE EASTERN  
SEMICIRCLE...CONTINUING THE HEAVY RAINS FOR HISPANIOLA THAT HAVE  
ALSO SPREAD INTO THE BAHAMAS. MY BEST ESTIMATE OF THE MAXIMUM  
WINDS IS 40 KT...WHICH WOULD MOST LIKELY BE OCCURRING IN THE BANDS  
BETWEEN EASTERN CUBA AND THE BAHAMAS. THE NEXT AIR FORCE  
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL LATE TONIGHT SINCE  
THE CENTER OF NOEL WILL LIKELY SPEND THE DAY OVER LAND...AS THE  
AIRCRAFT DO NOT TYPICALLY MAKE CENTER FIXES OVER LAND.  
 
THE CIRCULATION CENTER HAS BEEN MOVING GENERALLY WESTWARD OR 270  
DEGREES AT ABOUT 10 KT...TO THE SOUTH OF A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE.  
AS THAT RIDGE SLIDES EASTWARD DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS A  
SHORT-WAVE TROUGH APPROACHES THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED  
STATES...NOEL SHOULD EVENTUALLY MOVE NORTHWARD OFF OF CUBA AND  
EVENTUALLY TURN NORTHEASTWARD. THE TIMING OF THE RECURVATURE IS  
NOT AGREED UPON BY THE VARIOUS MODELS...BUT THE MODEL CONSENSUS  
DOES NOT BRING NOEL BACK OVER WATER UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING...AND  
NEITHER WILL THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. THE REMAINDER OF THE OFFICIAL  
TRACK IS ALONG THE SAME PATH AS THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY...BUT IS  
SLOWER DURING THE FIRST THREE DAYS.  
 
THE FORECAST OF AN EXTENDED STAY OVER CUBA REQUIRES A LOWER  
INTENSITY FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. NOEL MIGHT WEAKEN A  
LITTLE MORE TODAY AND TONIGHT OVER LAND. ONCE IT EMERGES OVER  
WATER AGAIN...IT COULD RESTRENGTHEN AS IT APPROACHES THE  
BAHAMAS...BUT PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS IN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY  
SINCE THE CIRCULATION WILL TAKE TIME TO BECOME REESTABLISHED. THE  
CHANCES OF NOEL BECOMING A HURRICANE APPEAR LESS NOW...AND MOST OF  
THE OBJECTIVE GUIDANCE DOES NOT FORECAST THIS TO OCCUR. NOTABLE  
STRENGTHENING COULD OCCUR...HOWEVER...ONCE NOEL BECOMES  
EXTRATROPICAL IN ABOUT THREE DAYS.  
 
THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS CURRENTLY AFFECTING PORTIONS OF FLORIDA ARE  
ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM TO THE NORTH AND ARE  
NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL. SEE STATEMENTS  
FROM NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICE.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 30/1500Z 21.1N 77.4W 40 KT...INLAND  
12HR VT 31/0000Z 21.4N 78.3W 35 KT...INLAND  
24HR VT 31/1200Z 22.5N 78.7W 40 KT...NEAR COAST OF CUBA  
36HR VT 01/0000Z 24.0N 78.6W 50 KT...OVER WATER  
48HR VT 01/1200Z 26.2N 77.4W 50 KT  
72HR VT 02/1200Z 32.5N 71.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
96HR VT 03/1200Z 39.0N 64.5W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
120HR VT 04/1200Z 46.5N 58.5W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 
 
FORECASTER KNABB  
 
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