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WTNT41 KNHC 311505  
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TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER 16  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL162007  
1100 AM EDT WED OCT 31 2007  
 
AIRCRAFT RECONNAISSANCE DATA INDICATE THAT NOEL HAS STRENGTHENED  
AFTER MOVING OFF THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA. MAXIMUM FLIGHT LEVEL  
WINDS WERE 53 KT OUTSIDE OF THE DEEP CONVECTION...WHICH HASN'T BEEN  
SAMPLED YET...AND SFMR DATA HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND 45 KT. THE  
ADVISORY INTENSITY IS INCREASED TO 45 KT. THE CENTER IS DISPLACED  
ABOUT 30-40 NM FROM THE DEEP CONVECTION...BUT THE ORGANIZATION HAS  
IMPROVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS. ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS  
EXPECTED BEFORE SOUTHWESTERLY WIND SHEAR INCREASES IN ABOUT 36-48  
HOURS. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWS SOME WEAKENING DUE TO SHEAR  
BEFORE THE SYSTEM RESTRENGTHENS AS AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS 345/7. THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE TO THE  
TRACK FORECAST...WHICH CALLS FOR NOEL TO TURN NORTHWARD AND THEN  
NORTHEASTWARD AHEAD OF A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH CURRENTLY MOVING  
THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO. ALTHOUGH THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE NOT IN  
GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE CURRENT SURFACE CIRCULATION  
OF NOEL...THEY ALL TAKE EITHER NOEL OR A NEW EXTRATROPICAL  
DEVELOPMENT RAPIDLY NORTHEASTWARD. GIVEN THE BETTER ASSOCIATION OF  
NOEL'S CIRCULATION WITH THE DEEP CONVECTION OBSERVED THIS  
MORNING...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS CONTINUITY WITH THE  
PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND PRESUMES THAT NOEL WILL BE THE PRIMARY  
CIRCULATION. THE TRACK REPRESENTS A BLEND OF THE HWRF AND GFDL  
TRACKS FOR NOEL AND THE GFS TRACK FOR THE NEW EXTRATROPICAL LOW.  
 
THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS THAT CONTINUE TO AFFECT PORTIONS OF FLORIDA  
ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN A STRONG HIGH  
OVER THE U.S. EAST COAST AND NOEL...BUT ARE NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED  
WITH THE CIRCULATION OF THE TROPICAL STORM. THIS DISTINCTION MAY  
BECOME LESS CLEAR AS NOEL APPROACHES...AND IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO  
TRANSITION TO A TROPICAL STORM WARNING. REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE  
WARNING IS CALLED...WINDS NEAR THE LOW-END TROPICAL STORM/GALE  
THRESHHOLD WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUR ALONG THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST  
FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO. PLEASE REFER TO STATEMENTS ISSUED BY LOCAL  
NWS FORECAST OFFICES.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 31/1500Z 22.7N 78.5W 45 KT  
12HR VT 01/0000Z 23.9N 78.6W 55 KT  
24HR VT 01/1200Z 25.1N 78.2W 55 KT  
36HR VT 02/0000Z 27.0N 76.7W 50 KT  
48HR VT 02/1200Z 30.0N 73.9W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
72HR VT 03/1200Z 36.0N 67.0W 55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
96HR VT 04/1200Z 45.0N 60.0W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
120HR VT 05/1200Z 55.0N 51.0W 60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 

 
FORECASTER FRANKLIN  
 
 
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