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HURRICANE FRED DISCUSSION NUMBER 9  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL072009  
500 PM AST WED SEP 09 2009  
 
THE EYE OF FRED HAS BECOME LESS DISTINCT THIS AFTERNOON AS CIRRUS  
CLOUDS HAVE OBSCURED THE CENTER. HOWEVER...CONVECTION IN THE  
EYEWALL REMAINS STRONG WITH AN OVERALL SATELLITE APPEARANCE  
BEFITTING A MAJOR HURRICANE. SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE A  
LITTLE LOWER THAN SIX HOURS AGO...AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS  
REDUCED TO 100 KT. FURTHER WEAKENING IS POSSIBLE LATER TONIGHT BUT  
A MORE SIGNIFICANT WEAKENING IS EXPECTED BY LATE TOMORROW AS FRED  
ENCOUNTERS INCREASING VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND DECREASING WATER  
TEMPERATURES. THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ONLY GET MORE HOSTILE  
AFTER 48 HOURS AND THE SHIPS MODEL ALSO DIAGNOSES DRY MID-LEVEL AIR  
NEAR FRED. INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT WITH  
THE HWRF/GFDL NOW SHOWING A WEAKER SYSTEM THAN EARLIER MODEL RUNS  
BY DAY 5. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS REASONABLY CLOSE TO A BLEND OF  
THE SHIPS/LGEM AND THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. IT WOULD NOT BE  
SURPRISING IF FRED DISSIPATED BEFORE THE END OF THE FORECAST  
PERIOD.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 315/11. FRED CONTINUES TO GRADUALLY GAIN  
LATITUDE AS SUBTROPICAL RIDGING ERODES TO ITS NORTH. WHILE THERE IS  
GENERAL AGREEMENT ON THE HURRICANE TURNING TOWARD THE NORTH AND  
DECELERATING IN A DAY OR SO...THERE ARE A VARIETY OF SOLUTIONS  
THEREAFTER. AT ONE EXTREME...THE UKMET HAS FRED MISSING A MID- TO  
UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...CAUSING THE CYCLONE  
TO STALL SOUTH OF 17N AND EVENTUALLY MOVE WESTWARD UNDER A NEW  
RIDGE. A DIFFERENT SOLUTION IS PROVIDED BY THE GFDL/HWRF/NOGAPS  
MODELS...WHICH SHOW FRED BEING STEERED QUICKLY NORTHWARD BY THAT  
TROUGH AND APPROACHING 30N BY THE END OF THE FORECAST. AT THIS  
POINT...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST WILL LEAN ON THE IDEA THAT THE  
CYCLONE WOULD EVENTUALLY WEAKEN AND BE STEERED MORE BY THE  
LOWER-LEVEL FLOW AT LONG-RANGE...LEADING TO A MORE WESTWARD TRACK  
AT THAT TIME. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS  
FORECAST AND REMAINS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS AT DAY  
5.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 09/2100Z 14.8N 33.3W 100 KT  
12HR VT 10/0600Z 15.8N 34.0W 95 KT  
24HR VT 10/1800Z 17.0N 34.6W 90 KT  
36HR VT 11/0600Z 17.8N 34.7W 80 KT  
48HR VT 11/1800Z 18.3N 34.4W 65 KT  
72HR VT 12/1800Z 19.5N 33.5W 50 KT  
96HR VT 13/1800Z 21.5N 34.5W 40 KT  
120HR VT 14/1800Z 23.5N 37.0W 25 KT  
 

 
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