688  
WTNT42 KNHC 101435  
TCDAT2  
HURRICANE FRED DISCUSSION NUMBER 12  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL072009  
1100 AM AST THU SEP 10 2009  
 
VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS THAT FRED STILL HAS AN EYE  
SURROUNDED BY DEEP CONVECTION...ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT AS DISTINCT AS  
IT WAS YESTERDAY. THE CLOUD PATTERN HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT  
ELONGATED DUE TO SOUTHERLY SHEAR THAT IS BEGINNING TO AFFECT THE  
HURRICANE. T-NUMBERS HAVE COME DOWN AND SUPPORT AN INITIAL  
INTENSITY OF 85 KNOTS. BECAUSE FRED IS HEADING TOWARD A HOSTILE  
ENVIRONMENT OF STRONG SHEAR AND COOL WATERS...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST  
CALLS FOR A GRADUAL WEAKENING. FRED COULD BECOME A REMNANT LOW BY  
THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD OF EVEN EARLIER. THIS IS IN GOOD  
AGREEMENT WITH THE SHIPS MODEL WHICH DISSIPATES THE CYCLONE AT 96  
HOURS. BOTH THE GFDL AND HWRF MODELS MAINTAIN FRED AS STRONG  
TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE BUT WITH SUCH PREVAILING HOSTILE  
ENVIRONMENT...THIS IS NOT REALISTIC.  
 
THE BEST ESTIMATE OF THE INITIAL MOTION IS 320 DEGREES AT 6 KNOTS.  
HOWEVER...THE STEERING CURRENTS ARE FORECAST TO COLLAPSE AND FRED  
IS EXPECTED TO SLOW DOWN AND DRIFT NORTHWARD OR MOST LIKELY IT WILL  
MEANDER FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS. BY THEN...A RIDGE IS FORECAST TO  
DEVELOP NORTH OF FRED...FORCING THE CYCLONE TO TAKE A MORE  
WEST-NORTHWEST PATH AS INDICATED IN THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. MOST OF  
THE TRACK GUIDANCE...PRIMARILY THE GLOBAL GFS AND THE ECMWF ARE  
FORECASTING THE WESTWARD BEND. BY THEN...GIVEN THE PREVAILING  
STRONG SHEAR FRED IS EXPECTED TO BE NO MORE THAN A WEAK DISTURBANCE  
STEERED BY THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 10/1500Z 16.8N 35.1W 85 KT  
12HR VT 11/0000Z 17.5N 35.4W 75 KT  
24HR VT 11/1200Z 18.0N 35.5W 65 KT  
36HR VT 12/0000Z 18.2N 35.2W 55 KT  
48HR VT 12/1200Z 18.6N 34.8W 45 KT  
72HR VT 13/1200Z 20.5N 35.0W 35 KT  
96HR VT 14/1200Z 22.0N 38.0W 30 KT  
120HR VT 15/1200Z 24.0N 42.0W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW  
 
 
FORECASTER AVILA  
 
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