094  
WTNT42 KNHC 121433  
TCDAT2  
TROPICAL STORM FRED DISCUSSION NUMBER 20  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL072009  
1100 AM AST SAT SEP 12 2009  
 
SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT FRED IS NOW A TIGHT SWIRL OF  
LOW-LEVEL CLOUDS...DEVOID OF DEEP CONVECTION. AN EARLIER QUIKSCAT  
PASS DID SHOW SEVERAL REALISTIC 35-40 KT WINDS...MOSTLY IN THE  
NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. DVORAK T-NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED TO 1.5 AND 2.0  
FROM SAB AND TAFB...RESPECTIVELY. ASSUMING THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME  
ADDITIONAL WEAKENING...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS LOWERED TO 35 KT.  
FURTHER WEAKENING IS FORECAST...AS FRED IS EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER A  
RATHER HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT OF SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR...MARGINAL  
WATER TEMPERATURES...AND DRY MID-LEVEL AIR. IN ALL LIKELIHOOD...  
FRED WILL BECOME A REMNANT LOW LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT. GLOBAL  
MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE SOME CHANCE...ALBEIT REMOTE...OF  
REGENERATION TOWARD THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. HOWEVER...THEIR  
REPRESENTATION OF FRED SEEMS TOO STRONG GIVEN ITS CURRENT  
APPEARANCE...AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME  
EVEN MORE ADVERSE THAN THEY ARE NOW OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST ASSUMES THAT THE REMNANT CIRCULATION OF FRED WILL  
DISSIPATE IN A FEW DAYS.  
 
FRED HAS BEEN MOVING LITTLE DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS. HOWEVER...  
RECENT SATELLITE FIXES DO YIELD AN INITIAL MOTION OF 180/03. SINCE  
FRED HAS NOW BECOME A SHALLOW SYSTEM...THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT  
WILL MOVE VERY LITTLE DURING THE NEXT 12-24 HOURS WITHIN A RATHER  
WEAK LOW-LEVEL FLOW. THEREAFTER...THE REMNANTS OF FRED SHOULD TURN  
TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR EVEN WEST-NORTHWEST...SOUTH OF A BUILDING  
LOW-LEVEL RIDGE...WITH SOME INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. THE OFFICIAL  
FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS PACKAGE BUT SLIGHTLY SLOWER IN  
THE SHORT-TERM.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 12/1500Z 17.5N 33.7W 35 KT  
12HR VT 13/0000Z 17.7N 33.7W 25 KT  
24HR VT 13/1200Z 18.4N 34.4W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
36HR VT 14/0000Z 19.3N 36.4W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
48HR VT 14/1200Z 20.5N 38.6W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
72HR VT 15/1200Z 22.5N 44.0W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
96HR VT 16/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 
 
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN  
 
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