096  
WTNT43 KNHC 261431  
TCDAT3  
TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT DISCUSSION NUMBER 4  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082009  
1100 AM AST SAT SEP 26 2009  
 
SATELLITE IMAGERY THIS MORNING INDICATES THAT TROPICAL DEPRESSION  
EIGHT HAS BECOME A LITTLE LESS ORGANIZED...WHICH IS LIKELY TO DUE  
TO 20 KT OF WEST-SOUTHWESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR INDICATED BY  
ANALYSES FROM CIMSS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN. THE  
CIRCULATION HAS BECOME ELONGATED ALONG A NORTHEAST-SOUTHWEST  
AXIS...WITH TWO OR THREE EMBEDDED VORTICITY CENTERS NOTED. IN  
ADDITION...THE CONVECTIVE BANDING IS FARTHER FROM THE CENTER THAN  
24 HR AGO. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB REMAIN  
30 AND 25 KT...SO THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 30 KT.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 295/12. THE LARGE-SCALE  
MODELS FORECAST A LARGE-DEEP LAYER TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE  
COLD FRONT CURRENTLY OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC TO MOVE EASTWARD  
DURING THE NEXT 48-96 HR. THIS SHOULD CAUSE THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE  
OVER THE EASTERN ATLANTIC TO WEAKEN...AND SHOULD ALLOW THE TROPICAL  
DEPRESSION TO TURN NORTHWARD AND THEN RECURVE INTO THE WESTERLIES  
ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TROUGH. MOST OF THE TRACK GUIDANCE CALLS  
FOR THIS SCENARIO...AND THE NEW TRACK FORECAST IS FOR RECURVATURE  
AFTER 72 HR. AN ALTERNATE SCENARIO IS SHOWN BY THE ECMWF...WHICH  
FORECASTS THE DEPRESSION TO WEAKEN WITH THE REMNANT TROUGH MOVING  
WESTWARD IN THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW.  
 
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. THE DEPRESSION IS  
NOT ONLY ENCOUNTERING MODERATE SHEAR...BUT IS ALSO OVER A TONGUE OF  
COLDER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES AND HAS AN AREA OF DRY AIR JUST TO  
ITS WEST. WHILE THE SHEAR IS FORECAST TO CHANGE LITTLE DURING THE  
NEXT 48-60 HR...THE SSTS INCREASE ALONG THE FORECAST TRACK. THE  
MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THE COMBINATION OF SHEAR AND DRY AIR  
WILL CAUSE THE DEPRESSION TO GRADUALLY DECAY OVER THE NEXT  
48-72 HR. ON THE OTHER HAND...WITH THE INCREASING SSTS...THE  
CYCLONE COULD STRENGTHEN IF AND WHEN THE SHEAR DECREASES...AS  
SUGGESTED AFTER 72 HR BY THE SHIPS...LGEM...AND GFDL MODELS. THE  
NEW INTENSITY FORECAST GOES WITH THE WEAKENING SCENARIO...CALLING  
FOR THE DEPRESSION TO DECAY INTO A REMNANT LOW IN ABOUT 72 HR.  
HOWEVER... THERE IS LOWER CONFIDENCE IN THIS SCENARIO THAN THERE  
WAS YESTERDAY.  
 
THE DYNAMICAL MODELS SHOW THE DEPRESSION OR ITS REMNANTS SURVIVING  
LONGER THAN THEY DID 24 HR AGO...SO A 96 HR FORECAST POINT HAS BEEN  
ADDED. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO DISSIPATE OR BE ABSORBED INTO THE  
BAROCLINIC TROUGH BY 120 HR.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 26/1500Z 18.0N 34.8W 30 KT  
12HR VT 27/0000Z 19.1N 36.4W 30 KT  
24HR VT 27/1200Z 20.5N 37.8W 30 KT  
36HR VT 28/0000Z 21.9N 38.9W 25 KT  
48HR VT 28/1200Z 23.0N 40.0W 25 KT  
72HR VT 29/1200Z 24.5N 40.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
96HR VT 30/1200Z 26.0N 37.0W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW  
120HR VT 01/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER BEVEN  
 
 
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