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WTNT41 KNHC 050235  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM IDA DISCUSSION NUMBER 3  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009  
1000 PM EST WED NOV 04 2009  
 
SINCE THE LAST AIRCRAFT PENETRATION OF THE STORM...THE CLOUD PATTERN  
OF IDA HAS REMAINED WELL ORGANIZED WITH A PROMINENT COLD-TOPPED CDO  
AND SOME BANDING FEATURES OVER THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. A RECENT  
SSMIS OVERPASS REVEALED A BANDING-TYPE EYE IN MICROWAVE IMAGERY.  
DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES WERE 45 KT FROM TAFB AND SAB BUT THESE  
ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE RULES OF THE TECHNIQUE. BASED ON THE  
EARLIER AIRCRAFT DATA AND CURRENT ORGANIZATION OF THE SYSTEM...THE  
CURRENT INTENSITY IS ESTIMATED TO BE 55 KT. THE UPPER-LEVEL  
OUTFLOW IS WELL DEFINED AND THERE REMAINS A SHORT PERIOD PRIOR TO  
LANDFALL FOR IDA TO STRENGTHEN A LITTLE MORE. RAPID WEAKENING IS  
LIKELY WHEN THE CYCLONE INTERACTS WITH THE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN OF  
CENTRAL AMERICA. IDA IS PROJECTED TO MOVE BACK OVER THE WATERS OF  
THE CARIBBEAN SEA IN ABOUT 3 DAYS. THE INTENSITY FORECAST IN THE  
LATTER PART OF THE PERIOD IS HIGHLY UNCERTAIN...HOWEVER...BECAUSE  
IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WILL SURVIVE ITS  
TRANSIT OVER LAND.  
 
THE ESTIMATED INITIAL MOTION IS NOW NORTHWESTWARD OR 315/6. IDA IS  
BEING STEERED BY THE FLOW BETWEEN A WEAK RIDGE OVER THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA AND A WEAK TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN  
GULF OF MEXICO. AS THE RIDGE BUILDS NORTHWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW  
DAYS...THE TROPICAL CYCLONE SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN TOWARD THE  
NORTH-NORTHWEST. MOST OF THE TRACK MODELS ARE IN FAIR AGREEMENT ON  
A GENERAL NORTHWARD OR NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION...BUT VARY  
SIGNIFICANTLY IN FORWARD SPEED. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS A BLEND  
OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS AND THE PREVIOUS NHC TRACK.  
 
THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF THIS SLOW-MOVING SYSTEM WILL LIKELY BE  
LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES CAUSED BY EXTREMELY  
HEAVY RAINS.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 05/0300Z 12.5N 83.1W 55 KT  
12HR VT 05/1200Z 12.9N 83.6W 60 KT...INLAND  
24HR VT 06/0000Z 13.5N 84.0W 40 KT...INLAND  
36HR VT 06/1200Z 14.3N 84.4W 30 KT...INLAND  
48HR VT 07/0000Z 15.1N 84.6W 25 KT...INLAND  
72HR VT 08/0000Z 17.0N 85.0W 35 KT...OVER WATER  
96HR VT 09/0000Z 19.5N 85.5W 40 KT  
120HR VT 10/0000Z 21.5N 86.5W 45 KT  
 
 
FORECASTER PASCH/ROBERTS  
 
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