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WTNT41 KNHC 060838  
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA DISCUSSION NUMBER 8  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009  
400 AM EST FRI NOV 06 2009  
 
THE DEEP CONVECTION IS NOW LARGELY CONFINED TO THE NORTHERN  
SEMICIRCLE OF THE CIRCULATION...WITH THE COLDEST TOPS FOUND IN A  
BAND EXTENDING FROM EASTERN HONDURAS INTO THE NORTHWESTERN  
CARIBBEAN. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 30 KT FOR THIS  
ADVISORY...BUT IDA WILL LIKELY WEAKEN A LITTLE MORE TODAY WHILE THE  
CENTER REMAINS OVER LAND. IT NOW APPEARS THAT THE CENTER OF IDA  
WILL REMAIN EAST OF THE HIGHEST TERRAIN IN NICARAGUA AND HONDURAS  
BEFORE IT EMERGES OVER THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN SEA IN ABOUT 24  
HOURS. IF IDA SURVIVES UNTIL THEN IT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO  
RESTRENGTHEN. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT SPREAD IN THE INTENSITY  
GUIDANCE...WITH THE GFDL AND HWRF MODELS SHOWING IDA REACHING  
HURRICANE INTENSITY AS IT ENTERS THE GULF OF MEXICO IN 3 TO 4 DAYS.  
CONVERSELY...THE SHIPS MODEL SHOWS ONLY MODEST STRENGTHENING WHILE  
THE LGEM SHOWS GRADUAL WEAKENING. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CLOSER  
TO THE LATTER SCENARIO AS THE UPPER-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT DEPICTED BY  
THE GLOBAL MODELS DOES NOT APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SIGNIFICANT  
INTENSIFICATION ONCE IDA MOVES INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO.  
 
THE INITIAL MOTION CONTINUES TO NUDGE TO THE RIGHT AND IS ESTIMATED  
TO BE 350/05 AS IDA MOVES AROUND THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF A WEAK  
MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CARIBBEAN SEA. A GENERAL NORTHWARD TO  
NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 4 DAYS BRINGING  
IDA INTO THE YUCATAN CHANNEL AND THEN INTO THE CENTRAL GULF OF  
MEXICO. BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...THE GLOBAL MODELS SHOW  
IDA INTERACTING WITH A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH THAT DIGS INTO  
THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO...AND MANY OF THE MODELS RESPOND BY  
TURNING IDA NORTHEASTWARD. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS  
BASICALLY AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE AND REMAINS NEAR THE MIDDLE  
OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.  
 
THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF THIS IDA IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO WILL LIKELY BE  
LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES CAUSED BY EXTREMELY  
HEAVY RAIN OVER PORTIONS OF NICARAGUA AND HONDURAS.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 06/0900Z 14.4N 84.1W 30 KT  
12HR VT 06/1800Z 15.2N 84.2W 25 KT...INLAND  
24HR VT 07/0600Z 16.4N 84.4W 30 KT...OVER WATER  
36HR VT 07/1800Z 17.4N 84.8W 35 KT  
48HR VT 08/0600Z 18.7N 85.4W 40 KT  
72HR VT 09/0600Z 21.5N 86.7W 45 KT  
96HR VT 10/0600Z 24.0N 87.5W 45 KT  
120HR VT 11/0600Z 27.0N 86.5W 45 KT  
 
 
FORECASTER CANGIALOSI/BRENNAN  
 
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