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TROPICAL DEPRESSION IDA DISCUSSION NUMBER 10  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009  
400 PM EST FRI NOV 06 2009  
 
THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE WITH IDA DURING THE DAY. SATELLITE  
IMAGES STILL SHOW A RATHER ASYMMETRIC SYSTEM...WITH MOST OF THE  
SIGNIFICANT BANDING ACTIVITY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER. THE  
INITIAL INTENSITY WILL BE MAINTAINED AT 30 KT. NOW THAT IDA IS  
OFFSHORE OVER VERY WARM WATERS...THE SYSTEM HAS A CHANCE TO RE-  
INTENSIFY. THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TROPICAL CYCLONE TO  
STRENGTHEN IS OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA...WHERE VERTICAL  
WIND SHEAR IS FORECAST TO BE MODERATE BY THE GLOBAL MODELS. SHEAR  
IS LIKELY TO GET RATHER STRONG BY THE TIME THE SYSTEM ENTERS THE  
CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO...WITH COOLER WATERS PRESENT...SO WEAKENING  
WILL BE SHOWN AT THAT TIME. WHILE THE DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE REMAINS  
HIGHER THAN THE STATISTICAL GUIDANCE...THERE IS A LITTLE LESS  
SPREAD THAN EARLIER. THE NHC FORECAST SHOWS SLIGHTLY HIGHER WINDS  
IN THE CARIBBEAN SEA THAN THE PREVIOUS FORECAST DID...AND REDUCES  
THE INTENSITY AT THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
IDA CONTINUES MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH...360/7. THE DEPRESSION  
SHOULD MOVE TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST TOMORROW DUE TO SHORTWAVE  
RIDGING OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES. MOST OF THE MODELS  
ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE SYSTEM PASSING OVER OR JUST TO THE  
EAST OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. AFTER IDA  
ENTERS THE GULF OF MEXICO...IT WILL LIKELY TAKE A TRACK TOWARD THE  
NORTH OR NORTHEAST AS IT BECOMES STEERED BY AN APPROACHING  
MID-LEVEL TROUGH. THE FORECAST TRACK IS VERY COMPLEX IN THE LONG  
RANGE WITH SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY IN HOW IDA WILL INTERACT WITH  
THAT TROUGH. MOST OF THE MODELS ARE SHOWING THE CYCLONE  
APPROACHING THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...THEN TURNING EASTWARD OR EVEN  
SOUTH OF EAST. A COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THAT IDA WILL LIKELY BE  
TRANSITIONING INTO AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE AT THAT TIME...AND THE  
GLOBAL MODELS HAVE QUITE VARYING SOLUTIONS FOR THIS TRANSITION.  
THE NHC FORECAST IS ADJUSTED NORTHWARD AT THE LONG RANGE...BUT  
REMAINS SOUTH OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS.  
 
IT IS OF NOTE THAT MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE SHOWING A LARGE  
PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN A HIGH OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED  
STATES AND THE TROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS COULD CONTRIBUTE TO A LARGE  
AREA OF STRONG WINDS OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO NOT DIRECTLY  
ATTRIBUTABLE TO IDA.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 06/2100Z 15.7N 83.9W 30 KT  
12HR VT 07/0600Z 16.7N 84.1W 30 KT  
24HR VT 07/1800Z 17.9N 84.7W 35 KT  
36HR VT 08/0600Z 19.1N 85.4W 45 KT  
48HR VT 08/1800Z 20.6N 86.3W 50 KT  
72HR VT 09/1800Z 24.5N 88.0W 45 KT  
96HR VT 10/1800Z 27.5N 87.5W 45 KT  
120HR VT 11/1800Z 27.5N 85.5W 35 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 
 
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