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WTNT41 KNHC 071500  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM IDA DISCUSSION NUMBER 13  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009  
1000 AM EST SAT NOV 07 2009  
 
RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT THE STRUCTURE OF  
IDA HAS CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THIS MORNING...WITH A COUPLE OF  
HOOKING BANDS NEAR THE CENTER. VISIBLE IMAGERY SHOWS AN EXPANDING  
CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST FEATURE AND NO OBVIOUS SIGNS OF SIGNIFICANT  
SHEAR. THE LATEST DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE 45 KT FROM BOTH  
AGENCIES...BUT GIVEN THE INCREASE IN ORGANIZATION SINCE THAT TIME  
THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN RAISED TO 50 KT. AN AIR FORCE  
RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS CURRENTLY EN ROUTE TO  
INVESTIGATE THE STORM.  
 
IDA IS MOVING NORTHWARD OR 355/8. IDA IS EXPECTED TO MOVE  
NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD BETWEEN A MID-LEVEL ANTICYCLONE OVER THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA AND A DEEP-LAYER TROUGH OVER SOUTHERN  
MEXICO. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT THROUGH 36 TO 48  
HOURS AND THE NHC FORECAST REMAINS IN LINE WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS  
DURING THAT TIME. THEREAFTER...THERE IS A LARGE SPREAD AMONG THE  
MODELS AS TO HOW IDA INTERACTS WITH A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH  
DIGGING INTO THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. THE GFS...ECMWF...AND  
HWRF ALL MOVE THE CYCLONE QUICKLY NORTHWARD AND SHOW IT REACHING  
THE NORTHERN GULF COAST IN ABOUT 3 DAYS AS IT BECOMES AN  
EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE. THE REMAINDER OF THE GUIDANCE HAS TRENDED  
NORTHWARD...BUT TURNS THE SYSTEM GENERALLY EASTWARD BEFORE REACHING  
THE NORTHERN GULF COAST. FOR NOW...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS  
BETWEEN THESE TWO SCENARIOS...BUT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED NORTHWARD TO  
ACCOUNT FOR THE LATEST TRENDS.  
 
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS...WHILE NOT IDEAL...APPEAR CONDUCIVE ENOUGH  
FOR STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS THE CYCLONE  
TRAVERSES THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN SEA. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST HAS  
BEEN ADJUSTED UPWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE BASED ON RECENT TRENDS.  
ONCE IDA REACHES THE GULF OF MEXICO...SHEAR IS FORECAST TO INCREASE  
AND WATERS BEGIN TO COOL. THESE FACTORS SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO  
WEAKENING...HOWEVER THE INTERACTION WITH THE UPPER-TROUGH AND AN  
EXPECTED EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION WILL LIKELY RESULT IN LESS  
WEAKENING THAN TYPICAL...GIVEN THE STRONG SHEAR.  
 
MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS SHOW A LARGE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN  
A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND THE  
TROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS IS ALREADY CONTRIBUTING TO A LARGE AREA OF  
STRONG WINDS OVER THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY  
ATTRIBUTABLE TO IDA.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 07/1500Z 17.9N 84.1W 50 KT  
12HR VT 08/0000Z 18.9N 84.6W 55 KT  
24HR VT 08/1200Z 20.3N 85.5W 60 KT  
36HR VT 09/0000Z 22.2N 86.8W 55 KT  
48HR VT 09/1200Z 24.6N 88.0W 45 KT  
72HR VT 10/1200Z 28.5N 88.0W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
96HR VT 11/1200Z 29.0N 86.5W 40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
120HR VT 12/1200Z 28.0N 85.0W 35 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
 
 
FORECASTER BROWN/CANGIALOSI/BLAKE  
 
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