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WTNT41 KNHC 072056  
TCDAT1  
TROPICAL STORM IDA DISCUSSION NUMBER 14  
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112009  
400 PM EST SAT NOV 07 2009  
 
THE SATELLITE APPEARANCE OF IDA HAS NOT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY THIS  
AFTERNOON. THE AIRCRAFT FOUND THE CENTER A LITTLE NORTH OF THE  
EARLIER ESTIMATES...WELL EMBEDDED WITHIN THE CENTRAL DENSE  
OVERCAST. THE PLANE MEASURED A PEAK 850 MB FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND OF 68  
KT AND A SFMR SURFACE WIND OF 60 KT. THESE DATA SUPPORT AN INITIAL  
INTENSITY OF 60 KT. CIRRUS ELEMENTS ARE MOVING NORTHEASTWARD...  
SUGGESTING MODERATE SOUTHWESTERLY UPPER-LEVEL FLOW OVER THE  
CYCLONE. HOWEVER IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT SHEAR WILL BE STRONG  
ENOUGH IN THE SHORT-TERM TO INHIBIT SOME ADDITIONAL  
INTENSIFICATION. IDA WILL BE TRAVERSING THE VERY WARM WATER OF THE  
NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE NOW  
UNANIMOUSLY PREDICTS IDA TO BECOME A HURRICANE WITHIN 12  
HOURS...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS SUIT. AFTER IDA REACHES  
THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE SHEAR IS FORECAST TO INCREASE AND WATERS  
BEGIN TO COOL. THESE FACTORS SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO MORE STEADY  
WEAKENING.  
 
IDA HAS BEEN MOVING NORTHWARD AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER FORWARD SPEED  
TODAY. THE TRACK GUIDANCE IS TIGHTLY CLUSTERED ON A NORTH-  
NORTHWESTWARD MOTION DURING THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS. THE OFFICIAL  
FORECAST DURING THIS PERIOD REMAINS NEAR THE MODEL CONSENSUS BUT HAS  
BEEN ADJUSTED A LITTLE EASTWARD PRIMARILY DUE TO THE MORE NORTHWARD  
INITIAL POSITION AND HEADING. THEREAFTER...THERE REMAINS  
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE GUIDANCE AS TO HOW IDA INTERACTS  
WITH A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH THAT MOVES INTO THE NORTHWESTERN  
GULF OF MEXICO IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. THE 12Z GFS...ECMWF...AND HWRF  
CONTINUE TO SHOW THE CYCLONE REACHING THE NORTHERN GULF COAST IN  
ABOUT 72 HOURS AS IT BECOMES AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE. THE  
OFFICIAL FORECAST IS A LITTLE FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE...AND  
HAS ONCE AGAIN BEEN SHIFTED NORTHWARD. THE NEW TRACK NOW SHOWS A  
POSITION JUST SOUTH OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST IN 3 DAYS.  
THEREAFTER...MOST OF THE GUIDANCE TURNS THE CYCLONE EASTWARD...AND  
SO DOES THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. BY 120 HOURS...SOME OF THE GUIDANCE  
SUGGEST THAT THE LOW WILL BE ABSORBED BY A FRONTAL BOUNDARY...AND  
THE OFFICIAL FORECAST DOES NOT PROVIDE A 5-DAY POSITION FOR THIS  
REASON.  
 
MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS SHOW A LARGE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN  
A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND THE  
TROPICAL CYCLONE. THIS IS ALREADY CONTRIBUTING TO A LARGE AREA OF  
STRONG WINDS OVER THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY  
ATTRIBUTABLE TO IDA.  
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INITIAL 07/2100Z 18.9N 84.3W 60 KT  
12HR VT 08/0600Z 20.1N 84.8W 75 KT  
24HR VT 08/1800Z 21.6N 85.8W 70 KT  
36HR VT 09/0600Z 23.8N 87.2W 60 KT  
48HR VT 09/1800Z 26.3N 88.0W 50 KT  
72HR VT 10/1800Z 29.5N 87.3W 45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
96HR VT 11/1800Z 29.5N 86.0W 40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL  
120HR VT 12/1800Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
FORECASTER BROWN  
 
 
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