348  
WTPZ42 KNHC 180856  
TCDEP2  
 
TROPICAL STORM NORMA DISCUSSION NUMBER 3  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP172023  
300 AM MDT WED OCT 18 2023  
 
SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS NORMA QUICKLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. THE  
CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST IS CONTINUING TO EXPAND, WITH COLD CLOUD TOP  
TEMPERATURES OF LESS THAN -90 DEGREES C. A RECENT ASCAT PASS OVER  
THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE STORM SUGGESTED THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER  
WAS NEAR THE SOUTHEASTERN SIDE OF THE DEEPEST CONVECTION. THE  
INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 55 KT, IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LATEST  
SUBJECTIVE AND OBJECTIVE DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB AND  
UW-CIMSS ADT, RESPECTIVELY.  
 
NORMA APPEARS TO BE GRADUALLY TURNING, AND THE LATEST MOTION IS  
ESTIMATED TO BE 320/6 KT. A WEAK RIDGE OVER MEXICO IS EXPECTED TO  
STEER THE STORM NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWARD FOR ABOUT 3 DAYS.  
THERE IS STILL SIGNIFICANT UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK PREDICTION LATER  
IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, WHICH IS LIKELY RELATED TO THE ANTICIPATED  
VORTEX DEPTH. GLOBAL MODELS THAT SHOW A WEAKER CYCLONE, SUCH AS THE  
ECMWF, TURN THE SYSTEM WESTWARD PRIOR TO THE BAJA CALIFORNIA  
PENINSULA. MODEL GUIDANCE WITH A STRONGER, DEEPER CIRCULATION TEND  
TO BRING THE STORM FARTHER NORTH AND TURN IT EASTWARD BY THE END OF  
THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE UPDATED OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS VERY  
SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS PREDICTION AND IS CLOSE TO THE SIMPLE MODEL  
CONSENSUS AID, TVCE. HOWEVER, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THIS  
FORECAST GIVEN THE SPREAD IN THE MODEL TRACKS.  
 
ENVIRONMENTAL AND OCEANIC CONDITIONS ARE LIKELY TO REMAIN CONDUCIVE  
FOR ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING THROUGH THE NEXT DAY OR SO.  
STATISTICAL INDICES PREDICTING THE PROBABILITY OF RAPID  
INTENSIFICATION, SUCH AS SHIPS-RI AND DTOPS, SUGGEST A VERY HIGH  
LIKELIHOOD OF RAPID STRENGTHENING WITHIN 24 HOURS. THE LATEST NHC  
INTENSITY FORECAST EXPLICITLY SHOWS RAPID INTENSIFICATION, WITH A  
PEAK OF 100 KT BY 36 H. BY DAY 2, GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE SHOWS THAT  
THE DEEP-LAYER VERTICAL WIND SHEAR SHOULD INCREASE OVER THE STORM  
AND LIKELY INDUCE A GRADUAL WEAKENING TREND THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF  
THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST REMAINS NEAR OR ABOVE  
THE INTENSITY MODEL CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 18/0900Z 14.2N 107.9W 55 KT 65 MPH  
12H 18/1800Z 15.0N 108.1W 70 KT 80 MPH  
24H 19/0600Z 16.2N 108.3W 85 KT 100 MPH  
36H 19/1800Z 17.0N 108.5W 100 KT 115 MPH  
48H 20/0600Z 17.9N 108.9W 95 KT 110 MPH  
60H 20/1800Z 18.9N 109.4W 90 KT 105 MPH  
72H 21/0600Z 20.0N 109.8W 85 KT 100 MPH  
96H 22/0600Z 22.1N 110.1W 80 KT 90 MPH  
120H 23/0600Z 22.9N 109.4W 75 KT 85 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER BUCCI  
 
 
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