288  
WTPZ42 KNHC 190252  
TCDEP2  
 
HURRICANE NORMA DISCUSSION NUMBER 6  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP172023  
900 PM MDT WED OCT 18 2023  
 
NORMA'S RAPID INTENSIFICATION CONTINUES. MICROWAVE IMAGERY FROM LATE  
THIS AFTERNOON INDICATED THAT A VERY WELL-DEFINED LOW- TO MID-LEVEL  
EYE HAS FORMED WITH A SURROUNDING RING OF SHALLOW TO MODERATE  
CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH RAPID INTENSIFICATION. WHILE THAT EYE IS  
NOT YET VISIBLE IN CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE IMAGERY, SUBJECTIVE  
DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB HAVE INCREASED TO 77 KT AND 90  
KT, RESPECTIVELY, WHILE RECENT OBJECTIVE EVALUATIONS FROM UW-CIMSS  
RANGE FROM ABOUT 75 KT TO 85 KT. BASED ON THE WHOLE OF THE DATA,  
THE INTENSITY FOR NORMA HAS BEEN RAISED TO 80 KT.  
 
FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS, THE FORECAST FOR NORMA APPEARS TO BE  
RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD. CONTINUED RAPID STRENGTHENING APPEARS  
LIKELY TONIGHT BASED ON NORMA'S CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE AND THE  
CONDUCIVE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT. THE HURRICANE SHOULD CONTINUE  
MOVING GENERALLY NORTHWARD DURING THAT TIME, STEERED BY A WEAK  
MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE EAST OF NORMA AND AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH TO  
ITS NORTHWEST. SHORT-TERM FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY DUE TO EYEWALL  
REPLACEMENT CYCLES WILL BECOME POSSIBLE STARTING TONIGHT, BUT  
CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST IS REASONABLY HIGH THROUGH 36 H.  
 
AFTER THAT TIME, THE UNCERTAINTY GROWS CONSIDERABLY. SOUTHWESTERLY  
UPPER-LEVEL FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED UPPER-LEVEL  
TROUGH WILL CONTINUE, BUT THE MID- TO LOWER-LEVEL STEERING WILL  
LIKELY BECOME LIGHT OR EVEN SWITCH TO NORTHERLY. THE RESULTING  
INCREASE IN SHEAR SHOULD CAUSE NORMA TO WEAKEN, BUT THE RATE OF THAT  
WEAKENING REMAINS IN DOUBT. AS LONG AS THE HURRICANE RETAINS ITS  
VERTICAL DEPTH, UPPER-LEVEL FLOW SHOULD KEEP IT MOVING NORTHWARD.  
HOWEVER, ONCE NORMA WEAKENS TO THE POINT THAT ITS STEERING IS  
DOMINATED BY LOW- TO MID-LEVEL FLOW, ITS FORWARD SPEED SHOULD SLOW  
DOWN CONSIDERABLY. IT IS POSSIBLE, THEREFORE, THAT NORMA WILL STALL  
JUST SOUTH OF BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA, A SOLUTION FAVORED BY THE  
DETERMINISTIC ECMWF AND A NUMBER OF ITS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS. HOWEVER,  
THE HURRICANE MODELS (HAFS-A/B, HMON, AND HWRF), WHICH SHOULD  
RESOLVE THE STRUCTURE OF NORMA BETTER THAN A GLOBAL MODEL, ALL  
INDICATE THAT THE HURRICANE WILL RETAIN ITS DEPTH LONG ENOUGH TO  
REACH THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. THE NHC TRACK AND INTENSITY  
FORECASTS FAVOR THE REGIONAL MODELS, BLENDING THEIR LATEST CONSENSUS  
WITH THE PREVIOUS FORECAST TO TRY TO MAINTAIN CONTINUITY. THE  
UPDATED OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS  
ONE, BUT IS GENERALLY SIMILAR DESPITE THE HIGH UNCERTAINTY.  
 
TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE WATCHES COULD BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS  
OF THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA LATER TONIGHT, AND INTERESTS THERE  
SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR UPDATES ON NORMA, ESPECIALLY SINCE  
LARGER-THAN-NORMAL CHANGES TO THE FORECAST ARE POSSIBLE DUE TO THE  
HIGH UNCERTAINTY IN THIS CASE.  
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. NORMA IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE RAPIDLY STRENGTHENING TONIGHT  
WHILE IT PASSES WELL OFFSHORE OF SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO.  
 
2. THERE IS A GREATER THAN NORMAL UNCERTAINTY IN THE TRACK AND  
INTENSITY FORECASTS FOR NORMA LATER THIS WEEK AND THIS WEEKEND WHEN  
IT IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE BAJA CALIFORNIA PENINSULA AND  
WESTERN MEXICO. REGARDLESS OF NORMA'S EXACT TRACK OR INTENSITY,  
THERE IS AN INCREASING THREAT OF WIND AND RAINFALL IMPACTS TO  
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR BY SATURDAY, AND WATCHES  
COULD BE REQUIRED THERE LATER TONIGHT OR ON THURSDAY.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 19/0300Z 16.4N 108.0W 80 KT 90 MPH  
12H 19/1200Z 17.2N 108.1W 100 KT 115 MPH  
24H 20/0000Z 18.3N 108.4W 100 KT 115 MPH  
36H 20/1200Z 19.3N 108.9W 90 KT 105 MPH  
48H 21/0000Z 20.6N 109.5W 80 KT 90 MPH  
60H 21/1200Z 22.1N 109.8W 70 KT 80 MPH  
72H 22/0000Z 23.0N 109.8W 65 KT 75 MPH  
96H 23/0000Z 23.5N 109.5W 60 KT 70 MPH  
120H 24/0000Z 24.0N 108.5W 45 KT 50 MPH  
 

 
FORECASTER D. ZELINSKY  
 
 
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