255  
WTPZ42 KNHC 191452  
TCDEP2  
 
HURRICANE NORMA DISCUSSION NUMBER 8  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP172023  
900 AM MDT THU OCT 19 2023  
 
NORMA HAS CONTINUED TO SHOW SIGNS OF STRENGTHENING THIS MORNING. THE  
15 TO 20 N-MI-WIDE EYE OF THE HURRICANE IS SURROUNDED BY A THICK  
RING OF CONVECTIVE CLOUD TOPS COLDER THAN -70 TO -75C. THE INITIAL  
INTENSITY IS RAISED TO 115 KT BASED ON CONSENSUS T6.0/115 KT  
SUBJECTIVE DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB AND SAB. THE AIR FORCE  
HURRICANE HUNTERS ARE SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE NORMA LATER TODAY.  
 
THE EYE OF NORMA HAS DEVIATED RIGHT OF TRACK DURING THE PAST 6-12 H,  
AND THE LONGER-TERM MOTION IS NEARLY DUE NORTH (360/6 KT). THE  
TRACK FORECAST REMAINS CHALLENGING. EVEN IN THE NEAR TERM, THERE IS  
SIGNIFICANT SPREAD AMONG THE VARIOUS MODELS, LIKELY RELATED TO  
DIFFERENCES IN THE STEERING FLOW BASED ON THE VERTICAL DEPTH OF THE  
CYCLONE. GIVEN RECENT TRENDS, THE NHC FORECAST HAS BEEN ADJUSTED TO  
THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS ONE THROUGH 60 H, BRINGING IT JUST EAST OF  
THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS AIDS AND FAVORING THE STRONGER GFS AND  
REGIONAL HURRICANE MODELS. THEREAFTER, IT REMAINS UNCLEAR WHETHER  
NORMA WILL TURN NORTHEASTWARD AND APPROACH THE WEST COAST OF  
MAINLAND MEXICO, OR STALL AND MEANDER TO THE SOUTH OF THE BAJA  
CALIFORNIA PENINSULA. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CONTINUES TO SHOW NORMA  
MOVING TOWARD MAINLAND MEXICO BEYOND 60 H, ALBEIT SLOWER THAN SOME  
OF THE STRONGER MODEL GUIDANCE (GFS, HAFS) WITH A DEEPER VORTEX.  
ONCE AGAIN, CONFIDENCE IS LOW AND FUTURE TRACK AND/OR SPEED  
ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE REQUIRED.  
 
RECENT SATELLITE IMAGES AND MODEL SHEAR ANALYSES SUGGEST THAT  
SOUTHERLY SHEAR IS INCREASING OVER NORMA AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO  
SO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THEREFORE, THE HURRICANE IS LIKELY  
NEAR ITS PEAK INTENSITY, ALTHOUGH SOME SMALL FLUCTUATIONS CANNOT BE  
RULED OUT TODAY. BY FRIDAY, WEAKENING IS EXPECTED AS NORMA LIKELY  
BECOMES MORE TILTED BY THE SHEAR AND MOVES INTO A DRIER AND MORE  
STABLE ENVIRONMENT. STILL, NORMA COULD BE AT OR NEAR HURRICANE  
STRENGTH WHEN IT MAKES ITS CLOSEST APPROACH TO THE SOUTHERN TIP OF  
BAJA CALIFORNIA, WHERE A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT. BEYOND 72 H,  
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS MORE UNCERTAIN AND HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON  
NORMA'S TRACK, STRUCTURE, AND THE EXTENT (IF ANY) OF LAND  
INTERACTION WITH THE BAJA PENINSULA. IF NORMA MOVES FASTER THAN  
FORECAST, IT COULD REACH THE WEST COAST OF MAINLAND MEXICO AS A  
STRONGER STORM. GIVEN THE TRACK UNCERTAINTY DESCRIBED ABOVE,  
INTERESTS THERE ARE ENCOURAGED TO CLOSELY MONITOR FORECAST UPDATES.  
 
 
KEY MESSAGES:  
 
1. NORMA IS EXPECTED TO BE AT OR NEAR HURRICANE STRENGTH AS IT  
APPROACHES THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA, AND A HURRICANE  
WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THAT AREA.  
 
2. HEAVY RAINS FROM NORMA WILL BEGIN TO IMPACT THE FAR SOUTHERN  
PORTIONS OF CALIFORNIA BAJA SUR ON LATE FRIDAY, CONTINUING THROUGH  
SUNDAY. THIS RAINFALL MAY PRODUCE FLASH AND URBAN FLOODING, ALONG  
WITH POSSIBLE MUDSLIDES IN AREAS OF HIGHER TERRAIN.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 19/1500Z 17.4N 107.6W 115 KT 130 MPH  
12H 20/0000Z 18.1N 107.7W 115 KT 130 MPH  
24H 20/1200Z 19.3N 108.3W 100 KT 115 MPH  
36H 21/0000Z 20.5N 108.8W 85 KT 100 MPH  
48H 21/1200Z 21.9N 109.2W 75 KT 85 MPH  
60H 22/0000Z 23.0N 109.3W 70 KT 80 MPH  
72H 22/1200Z 23.6N 109.0W 60 KT 70 MPH  
96H 23/1200Z 24.2N 108.3W 50 KT 60 MPH  
120H 24/1200Z 24.8N 107.3W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND  
 

 
FORECASTER REINHART  
 
 
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