404  
WTPZ45 KNHC 250241  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM RAMON DISCUSSION NUMBER 7  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202023  
700 PM PST FRI NOV 24 2023  
 
SINCE THE PRIOR ADVISORY, THE TROPICAL CYCLONE HAS BECOME MARKEDLY  
BETTER ORGANIZED. A SMALL CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST HAS FORMED NEAR THE  
LOW-LEVEL CENTER, WITH SOME MODEST EVIDENCE OF BANDING ALONG ITS  
NORTHERN AND EASTERN SEMICIRCLE. SUBJECTIVE DVORAK ESTIMATES FORM  
BOTH TAFB AND SAB HAVE BEEN OSCILLATING BETWEEN 30-35 KT, WITH  
OTHER OBJECTIVE INTENSITY MEASURES RANGING FROM 33 KT FROM ADT, UP  
TO 39 KT FROM SATCON. SINCE THE SYSTEM DOES LOOK BETTER ORGANIZED  
THAN EARLIER TODAY, THE INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 35 KT,  
UPGRADING TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-E TO TROPICAL STORM RAMON.  
 
THERE MIGHT BE A BRIEF WINDOW FOR THE STORM TO INTENSIFY A BIT MORE  
OVERNIGHT, WITH A SHORTWAVE TROUGH RIDING ALONG A SUBTROPICAL JET  
NORTH OF RAMON RESULTING IN A SHORT-TERM BOOST IN UPPER-LEVEL  
DIVERGENCE OVER THE CYCLONE. THE DIVERGENCE WILL ALSO COINCIDE WITH  
THE NIGHTTIME DIURNAL CONVECTIVE MAXIMUM, WHICH HAS BEEN QUITE  
PROMINENT THE LAST FEW NIGHTS WITH THIS CYCLONE. HOWEVER, THE SAME  
SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS ALSO PROGRESSIVE, AND WILL SOON LEAD TO  
SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN UPPER-LEVEL FLOW OVER OF RAMON, RESULTING IN  
A SHARP INCREASE IN WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. THUS, AFTER A  
BRIEF PERIOD OF INTENSIFICATION OVERNIGHT, WEAKENING IS EXPECTED TO  
BEGIN TOMORROW, WITH THE SYSTEM STILL FORECAST TO BECOME A REMNANT  
LOW ON SUNDAY WITH DISSIPATION SHORTLY THEREAFTER. THIS INTENSITY  
FORECAST IS SHIFTED A BIT CLOSER TO THE THE HCCA CONSENSUS AID,  
WHICH FAVORS THE HURRICANE-REGIONAL MODEL SOLUTIONS MORE THAN THE  
LOWER SHIPS/LGEM GUIDANCE.  
 
THE CENTER OF RAMON MAY HAVE REFORMED CLOSER TO THE DEEP CONVECTION  
EARLIER TODAY, AND ITS MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN NORTH DRIFT AT  
360/4 KT. A MID-LEVEL RIDGE CENTERED TO THE EAST OF RAMON SHOULD  
LEAD TO THE CYCLONE MOVING SLOWLY NORTHWARD IN THE SHORT TERM.  
HOWEVER, AS THE STORM ENCOUNTERS THE VERY HOSTILE UPPER-LEVEL  
ENVIRONMENT, IT SHOULD BECOME VERTICALLY SHALLOW, LEAVING THE  
LOW-LEVEL CENTER TO BE STEERED SLOWLY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD BY A WEAK  
LOW-LEVEL RIDGE BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND. THE LATEST TRACK FORECAST  
SHOWS A BIT MORE OF A NORTHWARD MOTION EARLY ON, BUT FALLS BACK  
CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS TRACK, JUST A BIT EAST OF THE SIMPLE AND  
CORRECTED TRACK AIDS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 25/0300Z 13.8N 122.6W 35 KT 40 MPH  
12H 25/1200Z 14.5N 122.6W 40 KT 45 MPH  
24H 26/0000Z 14.9N 122.6W 35 KT 40 MPH  
36H 26/1200Z 15.0N 122.8W 30 KT 35 MPH  
48H 27/0000Z 15.1N 123.1W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
60H 27/1200Z 15.5N 123.8W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
72H 28/0000Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
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