660  
WTPZ45 KNHC 260240  
TCDEP5  
 
TROPICAL STORM RAMON DISCUSSION NUMBER 11  
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202023  
700 PM PST SAT NOV 25 2023  
 
ON GEOSTATIONARY SATELLITE IMAGERY, RAMON HAS TAKEN ON THE  
APPEARANCE OF A HIGHLY SHEARED TROPICAL CYCLONE, WITH BURSTS OF DEEP  
CONVECTION FORMING NEAR THE CENTER THAT HAVE CONTINUALLY BEEN  
STRIPPED AWAY. DESPITE THIS PATTERN, THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT  
UPPER-LEVEL DIVERGENCE HAS AIDED IN CONVECTIVE GENERATION TODAY,  
WITH THE GOES-18 MESOSCALE SECTOR DERIVED MOTIONS WINDS SHOWING  
250-350 MB FLOW FANNING OFF IN A V-SHAPE PATTERN ALONG THE EASTERN  
FLANK OF THE CYCLONE. A LATE ARRIVING ASCAT-C PASS RECEIVED AFTER  
THE PRIOR ADVISORY SUGGESTED THAT RAMON WAS A BIT STRONGER THAN  
PREVIOUSLY ESTIMATED, WITH A FAIRLY LARGE SWATH OF GREATER THAN 35  
KT WINDS OVER ITS NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE, THOUGH THE HIGHEST VALUES MAY  
HAVE BEEN RAIN INFLATED. AN AMSR2 MICROWAVE PASS AT 2152 UTC ALSO  
SHOWED A PROMINENT CURVED BAND ON THE 37 GHZ CHANNEL ALONG WHERE  
THESE HIGHEST WINDS WERE OBSERVED EARLIER ON SCATTEROMETER. BASED ON  
THIS INFORMATION, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ADJUSTED TO 40 KT FOR  
THIS ADVISORY. THIS VALUE IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE SUBJECTIVE  
DVORAK ESTIMATES, BUT DOES MATCH THE MOST RECENT SATCON INTENSITY  
ESTIMATE FROM UW-CIMSS.  
 
RAMON IS ALREADY BATTLING SOME VERY HOSTILE WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND  
SHEAR ABOVE 40 KT, AND THIS IS ONLY FORECAST TO INCREASE FURTHER  
OVER THE NEXT 12-24 HOURS. THE DIVERGENT UPPER-LEVEL FLOW IS ALSO  
FORECAST TO QUICKLY BYPASS THE STORM. THUS, THE ONGOING CONVECTION  
IS EXPECTED TO FULLY DETACH FROM THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION LATER  
TONIGHT, AND WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN SHORTLY. RAMON IS STILL EXPECTED  
TO BECOME A REMNANT LOW IN A DAY OR TWO, WITH THE LOW OPENING UP  
INTO A TROUGH NOT LONG BEYOND THAT. ASIDE FROM THE SHORT-TERM  
INTENSITY, THE LATEST FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS ONE, AND IS  
IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
THE ONGOING CONVECTIVE BURSTS MAY HAVE TEMPORARILY CAUSED RAMON TO  
JOG EAST THIS EVENING, THOUGH AS THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION STARTS TO  
BECOME DETACHED, A SLOW WESTWARD DRIFT MAY BE STARTING, ESTIMATED AT  
260/1 KT. WHILE THE CYCLONE MAY CONTINUE TO DRIFT SLOWLY TONIGHT, BY  
TOMORROW, A BIT FASTER WESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION SHOULD  
BEGIN AS THE CYCLONE IS STEERED BY A WEAK LOW-LEVEL RIDGE. THE NHC  
TRACK FORECAST IS A BIT SOUTH AND EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE,  
PARTIALLY DUE TO ADJUSTMENTS IN THE INITIAL POTION, BUT ENDS UP  
CLOSE TO THE PRIOR TRACK FORECAST IN 36-48 H, CLOSE TO THE SIMPLE  
AND CORRECTED CONSENSUS AIDS.  
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS  
 
INIT 26/0300Z 14.8N 122.7W 40 KT 45 MPH  
12H 26/1200Z 14.8N 122.8W 35 KT 40 MPH  
24H 27/0000Z 14.9N 123.1W 30 KT 35 MPH  
36H 27/1200Z 15.0N 123.9W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
48H 28/0000Z 15.7N 125.2W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW  
60H 28/1200Z...DISSIPATED  
 

 
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