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FXUS02 KWBC 061804  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
204 PM EDT FRI JUN 06 2008  
 
VALID 12Z MON JUN 09 2008 - 12Z FRI JUN 13 2008  
 
THE 00Z DETERMINISTIC ECMWF KEEPS THE LOWEST HEIGHTS ALONG THE  
CANADIAN BORDER DURING THE PERIOD...WHICH FITS CLIMATOLOGY MUCH  
BETTER THAN THE GFS...GEM GLOBAL...AND UKMET...WHICH INDICATE AN  
UNSEASONABLY DEEP VORTEX OVER THE NORTHERN INTERMOUNTAIN REGION AS  
EARLY AS DAY 4. 00Z GFS SOLUTION WITH BOTH ITS WRN TROF NOT  
SUPPORTED BY GFS ENS MEANS NOR ENSEMBLE REMOP WHICH ORIENTS THE  
TROF WITH A MORE POSITIVE TILT.  
 
THE ECWMF IS SUPPORTED BY ITS MOST RECENT ENSEMBLE MEAN AT LEAST  
THROUGH DAY 5...AND WILL BE USED TO CREATE THE PRELIMINARY FRONTS  
AND PRESSURES. THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO HOW AMPLIFIED THE  
DOWNSTREAM TROUGH GETS OVER THE NORTHEAST AND ADJACENT ATLANTIC  
OCEAN LATE IN THE PERIOD...WITH THE 00Z UKMET AND 12Z/05 ECMWF  
MEAN THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE OF THE RECENT GUIDANCE AS IS GFS ENS  
MEAN AND GFS ENS REMOP WHICH INDICATES HIGH CONFIDENCE AND  
PREDICTABILTY HOLDING ON TO THE STRONG ERN CONUS RIDGE. WILL  
TEMPER THE ECMWF TOWARD THESE CLIMATOLOGICALLY REASONABLE  
SOLUTIONS INCORPORATING 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN BY MID TO LATE PERIOD.  
 
12Z GFS HAS ELIMINATED ITS PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE ACROSS THE GREAT  
LAKES REGION AND NORTHEAST  
TUES-WED AS HTS ARE 60-120 MTRS HIGHER AT H500. THE 00Z SOLUTION  
WAS NIXED BY HPC AS PER ENSEMBLES AND ENS REMOP PREFERING TO KEEP  
THE STRONG ERN CONUS RIDGE. WWD THE DEEPER VORTEX OF GFS REMAINS A  
POSSIBILITY BUT IT ALSO IS 60-90 MTRS HIGHER OVER THE NRN PLAINS  
TUES-THURS. CMC HAS ALSO DAMPENED THIS SHORTWAVE.  
 
MINOR CHANGES TO AFTN FINALS FROM EARLIER PRELIMS AT THE  
SFC..MAINLY LESS FRONTAL PUSH SWD TUES THRU THE MID MS/LOWER OH  
VALLEY. MID LEVEL AND POTENTIAL TEMP FOR THE PAC NW AS ECMWF HTS  
ARE TOO HIGH DAYS 3-4 WITH A TENDENCY FOR IT TO BE TOO FAR NORTH  
WITH THE INCOMING SHORTWAVE.  
 
SOME RELIEF TO THE ERN CONUS HEAT WAVE EXPECTED LATE WEEK INTO  
NEXT WEEKEND AS THE CONUS FLOW PATTERN BECOMES MORE ZONAL. CENTRAL  
TO NRN PLAINS WILL REMAIN THE FOCUS OF HVY RAINFALL THIS PERIOD  
WITH SUBTROPICAL TO MID LATITUDE RIDGING DOMINATING ERN CONUS AND  
THE WEST ATLC AND A MEAN TROF PERISTING OVER WRN U.S.  
CISCO/ROSENSTEIN  
 
 
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