821  
FXUS02 KWBC 161638  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
1238 PM EDT MON JUN 16 2008  
 
VALID 12Z THU JUN 19 2008 - 12Z MON JUN 23 2008  
 
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...  
 
THE 00Z GEFS MEAN AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN HANDLE THE PATTERN  
ACROSS THE NATION QUITE SIMILARLY DURING THE NEXT WEEK...SHOWING A  
RIDGE WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI AND A TROUGH TO THE EAST. THE  
DETERMINISTIC GFS CLOSES OFF A MID LEVEL LOW OVER THE SOUTHEAST  
DAYS 6 AND 7...WITH THE ECMWF SENDING MOST OF THE FRESH HEIGHT  
FALLS INTO THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. MEANS FROM BOTH MODELING  
CENTERS TAKE A MIDDLE GROUND...AND THAT COMPROMISE WAS REFLECTED  
IN THE UPDATED FRONTS AND PRESSURES FORECAST FROM DAY 5 ONWARD.  
THE GFS WAS A SHARP OUTLIER WITH THE SHORT WAVE TROUGH APPROACHING  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST EARLY IN THE PERIOD...EVEN COMPARED WITH ITS  
ENSEMBLE MEAN...SO CHOSE THE DETAILS OF THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF  
FOR THE FIRST TWO DAYS OF THE FORECAST...WHICH IS IN LINE WITH  
BOTH THE GEFS AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
 
FINAL...  
 
THE 12Z GFS IS SLOWER AND LESS VIGOROUS THAN ITS 00Z RUN WITH THE  
SHORT WAVE BRUSHING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DAYS 3 AND 4...MORE IN  
HARMONY WITH THE 00Z ECMWF...THOUGH STILL ON THE AMPLIFIED SIDE OF  
THE GUIDANCE. THE GFS HAS ALSO TRENDED AWAY FROM ITS DEEP CLOSED  
LOW OVER THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS AT THE END OF THE  
PERIOD...CLOSER TO THE ENSEMBLE MEAN PRODUCTS USED FOR THE UPDATE  
PACKAGE.  
 
MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION DURING THE MEDIUM RANGE SHOULD OCCUR  
ALONG THE BAROCLINIC EDGE OF THE EASTERN TROUGH...FROM THE LOWER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO THE SOUTHEAST COAST...AND WEST OF THE  
CASCADES...WHERE ENOUGH ENERGY SHOULD WRING OUT THE MARITIME POLAR  
AIRMASS STRENGTHENING OVER THE REGION TO KEEP THE WEATHER  
UNSETTLED.  
 
CISCO  
 
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