240  
FXUS02 KWBC 061749  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
148 PM EDT SUN JUL 06 2008  
 
VALID 12Z WED JUL 09 2008 - 12Z SUN JUL 13 2008  
 
THE MODEL GUIDANCE FALLS INTO TWO WELL DEFINED CLUSTERS FOR THE  
MEDIUM RANGE...WITH THE 00Z GFS AND UKMET SHOWING PROGRESSIVE FLOW  
ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER...AND THE 12Z/05/00Z 06 ECMWF ENSEMBLE  
MEAN...00Z GEFS MEAN...00Z ECMWF...AND 00Z GEM GLOBAL ALL  
ESTABLISHING A MEAN TROUGH OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DURING THE  
SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD. WITH SUCH STANDOUT AGREEMENT BETWEEN  
THE GEFS AND EUROPEAN CENTRE MEANS...ITS HARD TO ARGUE AGAINST  
THEIR SCENARIO. THE GEM GLOBAL LOOKS OVERZEALOUS WITH THE  
AMPLITUDE OF ITS TROUGH OVER THE NORTHWEST BY THE BEGINNING OF DAY  
6...SO WILL RELY ON A BLEND OF THE ECMWF AND ECMWF ENS MEAN FOR  
THE DETAILS OF THE PRELIMINARY PACKAGE...AT LEAST THROUGH DAY  
5...WITH A MARKED SHIFT TOWARD THE MOST RECENT ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN  
THEREAFTER TO ADDRESS THE UNCERTAINTY INHERENT AT THAT TIME RANGE.  
 
12Z GFS DIFFERS LITTLE FROM PREVIOUS RUNS. NO CHANGES DFOR  
AFTERNOON FINALS FROM MORNING PRELIMS.  
 
TS BERTHA STILL FORECAST TO BECOME HURRICANE THIS PERIOD WITH MOST  
GUIDANCE TO THE RIGHT OF PRIOR RUNS EXCEPT CMC WHICH CAME  
CONSIDERABLY LEFT. DAYS 6 AND 7 ARE AN AGREED UPON TRACK OF  
NHC/HPC TAKING IT NWD IN THE MID LEVEL WEAKNESS SEEN BY MODELS AND  
EMC/GFS ENS MID LEVEL MEANS BETWEEN 65W AND 70W. SEE NHC  
DISCUSSIONS/ADVISORIES.  
CISCO/ROSENSTEIN  
 
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