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FXUS02 KWBC 251918  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
317 PM EDT FRI JUL 25 2008  
 
VALID 12Z MON JUL 28 2008 - 12Z FRI AUG 01 2008  
 
   
..FINAL MEDIUM RANGE DISCUSSION  
 
BIG-PICTURE MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT CONTINUITY  
IN THE MEAN UPPER PATTERN...WHICH FEATURES A TROUGH OVER ERN  
CANADA SWD TO THE MID ATLC AREA...A RIDGE DOMINATING THE SOUTHWEST  
AND PLAINS...AND A TROUGH FROM THE GULF OF AK TO BRITISH COLUMBIA.  
WHILE MODEL MEANS AGREE ON THE LONGWAVE PATTERN...THERE ARE BIG  
DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY THEY ARE HANDLING THE SHORTWAVES MOVING  
INTO BOTH OF THE LONGWAVE TROFS.  
 
THE NEW 12Z/25 GFS SEEMS TO HAVE CAUGHT UP TO THE ECMWF WITH A  
SHORTWAVE MOVING FROM THE NRN PLAINS TO NEW ENG NEXT TUE-THU DAYS  
4-6. THE NEW 00Z/25 ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN HAD BEEN A BIT DEEPER THAN  
ITS 12Z MEAN YESTERDAY WITH ITS MEAN TROF OVER ERN CANADA/THE NE  
CONUS AROUND DAY 6...AND THE NEW 12Z GFS SEEMS TO BE SUPPORTING  
THAT TREND. HOWEVER...WE STILL DO NOT TRUST ITS RUN TO RUN  
CONTINUITY CHANGES UPSTREAM OF THAT AREA...ESPECIALLY IN THE NERN  
PACIFIC/GULF OF ALASKA. THE 12Z/25 GFS/CANADIAN LOOK WAY TOO DEEP  
WITH A TROF ALONG AND OFFSHORE THE PACIFIC NW  
COAST...RESPECTIVELY...AROUND DAY 6. THE 12Z UKMET LOOKS MORE  
REASONABLE IN THE WAY IT HANDLES THIS TROF AT THAT TIME  
RANGE...CLOSER TO THE PATTERN SHOWN BY GFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
SINCE THE DAY 5-7 PRELIM PROGS WAS COMPRISED OF 50% 00Z/25 ECMWF  
MEAN...WE STILL JUDGE THAT THE CENTER OF THE ENVELOPE OF MODEL AND  
ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS IS THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE UNTIL THERE IS BETTER  
AGREEMENT ON THE DETAILS OF SHORTWAVE TRAFFIC MOVING THRU THE  
FLOW. THEREFORE I WILL NOT MAKE ANY MAJOR CHANGES FOR THE FINAL  
FROM THE UPDATED PRELIM GRAPHICS.  
   
...REGIONAL HIGHLIGHTS  
 
...WAVY FRONT FROM THE NRN/CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MID ATLANTIC  
STATES...  
 
THE ENSEMBLE SOLNS FAVOR A WAVY STNRY FRONTAL BNDRY EXTENDING FROM  
THE CNTRL PLAINS TO THE OH VALLEY AND MID ATLC DURING MUCH OF THE  
5-DAY PERIOD. A DESCRIPTION OF EXPECTED PCPN WILL ONLY BE AS  
ACCURATE AS THE ACTUAL FRONT AND FRONTAL WAVES...AND CONVECTIVELY  
GENERATED OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES TO ITS S. BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE IN  
THE DETAILS. THE FRONT WILL BE A GENERAL FOCUS FOR CONVECTION THRU  
THE PERIOD. PCPN NEAR THE WRN PORTION OF THE FRONT OVER KS MAY BE  
ENHANCED BY RESIDUAL MOISTURE FROM T.S. DOLLY.  
   
..CENTRAL GULF COAST TO THE S ATLANTIC COAST INCLUDING FL  
 
DIURNAL CONVECTION SHOULD FIRE UP MOST EVERY DAY WITH A SOMEWHAT  
CLIMATOLOGICAL PRECIP MAXIMUM THRU THIS AREA. THE MAXIMUM THRU THE  
S ATLANTIC COAST MAY BE ENHANCED BY CONVERGENCE E OF A  
LEE-OF-THE-APLCHNS SURFACE TROF.  
   
..MONSOONAL AREAS OF NM/AZ/CO  
 
MOISTURE FROM THE REMNANTS OF TS DOLLY WILL FUEL CONVECTION IN THE  
FAVORED MONSOONAL AREAS. ONCE THIS MOISTURE IS ESTABLISHED...THERE  
IS NO MECHANISM IN SIGHT TO REMOVE IT...WITH A WEAK MEAN UPPER  
HIGH CENTERED SOMEWHERE TO THE SE OF 4 CORNERS. THE EXAGGERATED  
12Z GFS TROF ALONG THE W COAST DAY 6 SHOULD HAVE LITTLE OR NO  
EFFECT. IF ANYTHING...WEAK PREFERRED GFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN 500MB  
RIDGING OVER CO/WY LATE NEXT WEEK WILL BECOME EVEN MORE FAVORABLE  
FOR MONSOONAL ACTIVITY. WE SUSPECT THAT IN GENERAL...THE GFS AND  
ECMWF MODELS APPEAR DEFICIENT IN THE WWD EXTENT OF THE MONSOONAL  
PRECIP INTO AZ MOST OF THIS MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
   
..PACIFIC NW COAST  
 
JUST ENOUGH HEIGHT FALLS ARE EXPECTED TO SUPPORT LIGHT PCPN  
AMOUNTS OVER THE COASTAL AND CASCADE RANGES FROM CENTRAL OR NWD  
WED DAY 5. GUIDANCE WAS IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT IN SUPPORTING A  
STRENGTHENING THERMAL FIELD OVER THE NWRN STATES DAYS 3-5....AND  
MAINTAINING THIS THERMAL GRADIENT DAYS INTO DAYS 6-7. DESPITE SOME  
THICKNESS COOLING...FOLLOWING A SURFACE FRONT INTO THE NWRN STATES  
MAY BE MORE PROBLEMATIC. ONE THING WE ARE HIGHLY CONFIDENT OF.  
THAT IS...THE AMPLITUDE OF THE NEW 12Z GFS BRINGING A TROF INTO  
THE PACIFIC NW THU DAY 6 IS QUITE OVERDONE.  
 
FLOOD  
 
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