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FXUS02 KWBC 271844  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
243 PM EDT SUN JUL 27 2008  
 
VALID 12Z WED JUL 30 2008 - 12Z SUN AUG 03 2008  
 
MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT AT LARGER SCALES AND  
DEPICTS AN ERN NORTH AMERICA TROUGH...ALONG WITH A DEEP VORTEX  
OVER THE NE PACIFIC THAT PROGRESSES EWD INTO WESTERN CANADA WHILE  
HANGING BACK ENERGY ACROSS/OFFSHORE THE PAC NW. IN ADDITION...A  
RIDGE OVER THE SOUTHWEST AND PLAINS THIS WEEK EXPANDS EAST TO THE  
MS VALLEY BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
PREFER TO MAINTAIN GOOD CONTINUITY AND THE FINAL HPC PRELIM  
GUIDANCE REMAINS PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A BLEND OF THE 00 UTC  
ECMWF AND 12 UTC GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN...WITH THE ECMWF COMPONENT  
GRADUALLY DECREASING FROM 70% DAY 3/WED TO 30% DAY 7/NEXT SUN  
CONSISTENT WITH LOWERING PREDICTABILITY OF SMALLER SCALE DETAILS.  
HPC PRELIM PROGS INSTEAD USED THE 00 UTC GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN THAT  
WAS IN GENERALLY LESS AMPLIFIED AT MID-HIGHER LATITUDES THAN THE  
NEWER 12 UTC GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN. WE THINK IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO  
TREND TOWARD AT LEAST A SLIGHTLY MORE AMPLIFIED SOLUTION LATE WEEK  
INTO NEXT WEEKEND CONSIDERING FAVORABLE WAVELENGTH SPACING FROM  
THE PACIFIC THROUGH NOAM AND STRONG TRENDS FROM THE 12 UTC GFS AND  
CANADIAN...BUT NOT SO MUCH FROM THE 12 UTC UKMET. IT SEEMED  
PREMATURE TO MAKE A RADICAL CONTINUITY CHANGE ON THE ORDER OF THE  
VERY AMPLIFIED 12 UTC GFS CONSIDERING LATEST RUN TO RUN VARIANCE  
ISSUES FOR THE ALREADY ISSUED FINAL HPC PROGS...BUT I JUST HAD A  
QUICK PEEK AT THE NEW 12 UTC ECMWF THROUGH DAY 6 AND ITS MUCH MORE  
AMPLIFIED THAN THE 00 UTC ECMWF SO THAT UPS THE ANTE.  
 
OTHERWISE...WE DID STILL PLACE ADDITIONAL MANUALLY ADJUSTED MASS  
FIELD AND QPF EMPHASIS ON THE MOIST REMAINS OF DOLLY THAT WE  
ANTICIPATE MAY HANG TOGETHER AND BEST FOCUS CONVECTION FROM THE  
MID-MS TO THE TN/OH VALLEYS WED/THU.  
 
WHY DID WE CHOOSE THIS PARTICULAR DETERMINNISTIC BLEND OF GUIDANCE  
IN THIS PATTERN? IN ADDITION TO THE NEW 12 UTC GFS CHANGES AS  
DISCUSSED ABOVE...THE 00/06 UTC GFS RUNS ALSO OFFERED CONTINUITY  
ISSUES AS THEY SHOWED LOWER SFC PRESSURES THAN OTHER MODELS FROM  
THE GREAT LAKES TO THE NORTHEAST DURING THE WEEK SEEMINGLY AS A  
RESULT OF FEEDBACK PROBLEMS. IN CONTRAST...THE 00 UTC ECMWF  
SEEMED MORE REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT DURING THE WEEK...BUT THE  
NEWER 12 UTC ECMWF CERTAINLY OFFERS A NEW PROBLEM. THE 00 UTC  
ECMWF ALSO DID BECOMES A STRONG OUTLIER BY NEXT WEEKEND WITH  
DEVELOPMENT OF AN ORGANIZED LOW ACROSS E-CENTRAL CANADA. THIS  
ALONG WITH THE EVER PRESENT INCREASED UNCERTAINTY OVER TIME OPENS  
THE DOOR FOR INCREASED INCORPORATION OF THE 12 UTC GFS ENSEMBLE  
MEAN THAT APPEARS TO HAVE REASONABLE CONTINUITY AND MINIMIZES ANY  
OVERLY DEVELOPED FEATURES NOTED ON SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL  
GUIDANCE. THIS GFS MEAN ALSO SEEMS TO OFFER SLIGHTLY MORE HINT OF  
DOLLY REMAINS THAN THE MORE SHEARED 00 UTC ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN.  
 
EFFECTS FROM THE REMNANTS OF DOLLY AND CONTINUED CONVECTION  
FARTHER DOWN OVER THE SERN US/FL ALONG WITH RENEWED UPSTREAM  
MONSOONAL MOISTURE BACK INTO THE SW/SRN ROCKIES BY LATE WEEK/NEXT  
WEEKEND SHOULD PROVE ACTIVE. ANOTHER DEFINED THREAT IN THIS  
PATTERN SHOULD RESULT WITH APPROACH AND PASSAGE OF A SERIES OF  
HARD TO TIME IMPULSES RIDING THE SRN EDGE OF THE WESTERLIES FROM  
THE NRN TIER OF THE NW US/SW CANADA OVERTOP THE RIDGE. THESE  
ENERGIES WILL SUBSEQUENTLY STRONGLY TEND TO DIG SEWD ACROSS THE  
N-CENTRAL US INTO THE ERN US TROUGH POSITION AND ACT TO ENHANCE  
THETA-E CONVERGENCE AND AFTERNOON THUNDERSTORMS AND OVERNIGHT MCS  
ACTIVITY LOCALLY AS WAVES DEVELOP/TRACK ALONG A PERSISTENT AND  
SLOW MOVING FRONTAL ZONE.  
 
HEDGE/SCHICHTEL  
 
 
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