849  
FXUS02 KWBC 061908  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
307 PM EDT WED AUG 06 2008  
 
VALID 12Z SAT AUG 09 2008 - 12Z WED AUG 13 2008  
 
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES SHOW AN INTERESTING AND COMPLEX FLOW REGIME  
ACROSS NORTH AMERICA.  
 
IN THIS FLOW...SRN LATITUDE IMPULSES INCLUDING RESIDUAL DEEP  
TROPICAL MOISURE AND LOCAL RAINFALL THREAT FROM THE REMANANTS OF  
EDOUARD ROTATE UP INTO THE WRN US AROUND THE WRN PERIPHERY OF AN  
ESTABLISHED SW US RIDGE BEFORE CURVING EASTWARD OVER THE RIDGE  
INTO THE CENTRAL US AND EXTENDING CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL. FARTHER  
NORTH...PACIFIC SYSTEM ENERGY SLIDES INLAND TO CARVE OUT AN  
UNSEASONABLY AMPLIFIED AND COOLING/PCPN FOCUSING MID-UPPER LEVEL  
TROUGH THIS WEEKEND THAT MOST GUIDANCE SLOWLY TRACKS FROM SW  
CAN/NW US TOWARD SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA AND THE NRN PLAINS INTO  
MIDWEEK. AN EVEN MORE NRN STREAM BRANCH SPLIT OVER NW CANADA  
LEADS INTO A POTENTIALLY DEEP SRN HUDSON BAY VORTEX.  
 
THE COMPLEX INTERACTION OF THESE FLOWS LEADS TO MORE PRONOUNCED  
MODEL AND ENSEMBLE DIFFERENCES DOWNSTREAM FROM THE CENTRAL THROUGH  
ERN US SUN-WED WITH RESPECT TO THE EXTENT OF IMPULSE DIGGING AND  
THE ASSOCIATED DEPICTION OF LOWER LEVEL FRONTAL LOW AND ASSOCIATED  
LEAD THEAT-E ADVECTION RETURN. WE REMAIN CONCERNED THAT THE 00  
UTC ECMWF MAY BE DEVELOPING A MIDWEST TO NERN US SURFACE LOW AND  
THETA-E ADVECTION/PCPN PATTERN TOO ROBUSTLY AND RECENT GFS RUNS  
AND GFS ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE SUPPORT A MUCH MORE SUPRESSED SYSTEM  
INTO THE LEAD AMPLIFIED ERN US MID-UPPER LEVEL TROF POSITION.  
HOWEVER...00 UTC ECMWF ENSEMBLES REMAIN MUCH CLOSER TO A SMOOTHED  
VERION OF THE 00 UTC ECMWF THAN ANY GFS/GEFS SOLUTION AND  
YESTERDAYS 12 UTC ECMWF WAS NOT UNDULY INCONSISTENT WITH THE 00  
UTC RUN. OVERALL...OPT FOR A MORE SOUTHWARD SUPPRESSED AND WEAKER  
THAN 00 UTC ECMWF LOW TRACK IN THE FINAL HPC PROGS WITH THE  
UNDERSTANDING THAT PREDICTABILY WITH THESE TYPES OF TRANSIENT  
SMALLER SCALE SYSTEMS SIGNIFCANTLY ALTER THE LOCAL SENSIBLE  
WEATHER FOCUS.  
 
MY RESULTANT GUIDANCE BLEND OVER NOAM AND SURROUNDING OCEANS WAS  
PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM ABOUT A 50-50 BLEND OF THE 00 UTC ECMWF AND  
00 UTC ECMWF ENSEMBLES THAT SEEMED REASONABLE OVER THE W-CENTRAL  
US...BUT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY MANUALLY ADJUSTED AFTERWARDS FROM THE  
CENTRAL TO ERN US...ESPECIALLY WITH SURFACE DEPICTIONS AS  
ADDRESSED ABOVE.  
 
OVERALL...UNCERTAINTY REMAINS NEAR NORMAL OVER W-CENTRAL NOAM.  
UNCERTAINTY REMAINS ABOVE NORMAL OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL US...BUT IS  
BOLSTERED A BIT AS BOTH OF TODAYS NEW 12 UTC GFS/ECMWF RUNS SHOW  
FAVORABLE TRENDS TOWARD OUR BLENDED SOLUTION SO MAINTAINING  
CONTINUITY WITH THE HPC PROGS FINAL PACKAGE SEEMS PRUDENT.  
 
SCHICHTEL  

 
 
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