817  
FXUS02 KWBC 101820  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
219 PM EDT SUN AUG 10 2008  
 
VALID 12Z WED AUG 13 2008 - 12Z SUN AUG 17 2008  
 
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES STILL PAINT A QUITE SIMILAR AND AMPLIFIED  
LONGWAVE PATTERN ALOFT OVER NOAM FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK...BUT STILL  
OFFER SOME CONTINUITY DIFFERENCES WITH EMBEDDED SMALLER SCALE  
WEATHER FEATURES. IN THIS PATTERN...A SUMMERTIME WRN NOAM RIDGE  
BUILDS IN ADVANCE OF AN AMPLIFYING NE PAC TROUGH. A DEEP CYCLONE  
DIGS SHARPLY FROM SW-CENTRAL CANADA INTO THE US TO THE LEE OF THE  
RIDGE...LEADING TO A RETROGRESSION OF AN EARLY WEEK ERN NOAM  
TROUGH BACK TO THE E-CENTRAL US. THE COOLING SYSTEM SHOULD ALSO  
ACT TO FOCUS A LINGERING PERIOD OF POTENTIALLY LOCALLY HEAVY  
RAINFALL AS DEEP GULF MOISTURE FEEDS/POOLS DOWNSTREAM. THE EXTENT  
OF MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH/CLOSED LOW DIGGING DIFFERS BETWEEN  
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES BUT THERE IS A CLEAR RECENT TREND TO FAVOR AN  
INCREASINGLY AMPLIFIED SOLUTION. EVEN ACTING CONSERVATIVELY FOR  
AUGUST...AN AMPLITUDE THAT DEVELOPS NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE FULL  
RANGE OF MODEL AND ENSEMBLE MEMBER SOLUTIONS WOULD STILL PRODUCE  
QUITE A POTENT TROUGH WITH 500 MB HEIGHTS UPWARDS OF 3 STANDARD  
DEVIATIONS BELOW NORMAL. THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE EARLY TO  
MID AUGUST 2004 PATTERN. THIS SEEMS CONSISTENT AS PER EXPECTED  
STRENGTH OF THE UPSTREAM RIDGE IN ALMOST ALL MODEL AND ENSEMBLE  
RUNS. THIS TROUGH COULD EVEN PUMP UP DOWNSTREAM WESTERN ATLANTIC  
RIDGING ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF TROPICAL  
DISTURBANCES NEAR THE GREATER ANTILLES/CARIBBEAN SEA.  
 
THE MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THIS FLOW PATTERN SO HPC PROGS  
REMAIN PRIMARILY DERIVED FROM A NEAR 50-50 BLEND OF THE 00 UTC GFS  
AND 00 UTC ECMWF THAT HAD GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE 00 AND EVEN MORE  
AMPLIFIED 06 UTC GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN AND THE 00 UTC ECMWF ENSEMBLE  
MEAN. HOWEVER...THE FINAL HPC PROGS DID HEDGE THAT BLEND ABOUT  
20% TOWARD THE 12 UTC GFS THAT IS TRENDING INCREASING TOWARD A  
SOLUTION WITH DETAILS CLOSER TO THE 00 UTC ECMWF.  
 
ROTH/SCHICHTEL  
 
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