615  
FXUS02 KWBC 141715  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
115 PM EDT THU AUG 14 2008  
 
VALID 12Z SUN AUG 17 2008 - 12Z THU AUG 21 2008  
 
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...  
 
WITH THE ADVENT OF THE COMPLETE 00Z AND 06Z NUMERICAL MODEL  
SUITE...DECIDED TO RELY PRIMARILY ON THE DETERMINISTIC ECMWF FOR  
THE FIRST PART OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...WITH A PROGRESSIVE  
BLEND TOWARD THE EUROPEAN CENTRE ENSEMBLE MEAN FROM DAY 5 ONWARD.  
THE GFS LOOKS UNCLIMATOLOGICALLY INTENSE WITH THE TROUGH IT BRINGS  
INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST LATE IN THE PERIOD...WITH THE EUROPEAN  
CENTRE ENSEMBLE MEAN AFFORDING A MORE REASONABLE STAND IN FOR A  
POSSIBLE DEEPER SOLUTION...EVENED OUT BY THE FLATTER DETERMINISTIC  
ECMWF IN THE CHOSEN BLEND.  
 
USED YESTERDAYS COORDINATED TRACK FOR THE POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM  
OVER THE BAHAMAS AND FLORIDA...WITH A SIMPLE EXTRAPOLATION FOR THE  
DAY 7 POINT IN LIGHT OF THE WIDE SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE. THE 00Z  
GEM GLOBAL SENDS THE SYSTEM SOUTH OF CUBA...REPRESENTING THE LEFT  
SIDE OF THE DYNAMICAL MODEL ENVELOPE...WITH THE 00Z AND 06Z GFS  
SHEARING THE SYSTEM NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS BERMUDA DEFINING THIS  
GUIDANCE TO THE RIGHT. WILL HAVE ANOTHER COORDINATION WITH TPC  
TODAY AND TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THIS SYSTEM.  
 
FINAL...  
 
THE 12Z GFS BACKED OFF ON THE DEPTH OF THE TROUGH COMING INTO THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST LATE IN THE PERIOD...IN LINE WITH THE BLEND  
CHOSEN FOR THE UPDATE PACKAGE...SO MADE NO CHANGES FOR THE FINAL  
ISSUANCE OF THE FRONTS AND PRESSURES OVER MOST OF THE NATION FOR  
DAYS 3 THROUGH 7. COORDINATION WITH TPC RESULTED IN DIRECTING THE  
POSSIBLE TROPICAL SYSTEM NORTHWARD EAST OF FLORIDA...BUT AGREED  
WITH THE SPECIALIST THERE THAT CONFIDENCE IN EITHER THE STRENGTH  
OR TRACK OF THIS LOW IS QUITE LOW. THE 12Z GEM GLOBAL TAKES THE  
SYSTEM SOUTH OF CUBA...THEN LIFTS IT INTO THE EASTERN GULF OF  
MEXICO...WHILE THE GFS TRACKS IT NORTHWARD WELL SHORT OF THE  
FLORIDA COAST IN A HEAVILY SHEARED ENVIRONMENT.  
 
CISCO  

 
 
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