980  
FXUS02 KWBC 211930  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
329 PM EDT THU AUG 21 2008  
 
VALID 12Z SUN AUG 24 2008 - 12Z THU AUG 28 2008  
 
THE LONGWAVE PATTERN SHOWS PROGRESSION OF TWO MAJOR TROUGHS IN THE  
POLAR WESTERLIES. THE FIRST OF THESE WILL MOVE FROM THE GULF OF  
ALASKA INTO THE NWRN CONUS AND ADJACENT CANADA. THE SECOND ONE  
WILL MOVE ACROSS ERN CANADA INTO THE N ATLANTIC...A BIG RIDGE WILL  
PROGRESS EWD BETWEEN THE TWO TROUGHS. AT LOWER LATITUDES...THE  
REMNANTS OF TS FAY SHOULD EITHER REMAIN STNRY OR DRIFT EVER SO  
SLOWLY NNE UNDERNEATH A STRONG POS HEIGHT ANOMALY OVER ERN  
CANADA/THE GRT LAKES THE LATTER HALF OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
 
THE NEW 12Z GFS HAS TAKEN A DECIDED TURN TOWARDS THE 00Z  
ECMWF....MORE SO THAN THE 06Z/21 GFS RUN. THE NEW 12Z ECMWF  
FOLLOWS ITS OWN CONTINUITY FAIRLY WELL THRU DAY 5 THEN DRIVES  
HEIGHT FALLS ACROSS THE NWRN STATES INTO THE N CENTRAL STATES EVEN  
FASTER THAN IT DID IN ITS PREVIOUS RUN. IT ALSO EMPHASIZES A  
DIFFERENT SHORT WAVE BY DAY 7 OVER THE NRN HIGH PLAINS. WE LEFT  
FINAL GRAPHICS MOSTLY UNCHANGED FROM THE PRELIM UPDATE.  
 
 
THIS MORNINGS NAEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE PLOT (A COMBINATION OF THE  
GFS/CANADIAN/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS) HAD SUGGESTED THAT THE  
CENTER OF THE ENVELOPE OF SOLUTIONS WAS AS GOOD A PLACE TO BE AS  
ANY. THRU MON DAY 4...THE ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AGREED RATHER WELL ON A  
PROGRESSIVE TROF/RIDGE/TROF PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS...AND ON THE  
MEANDERING REMNANTS OF FAY OVER THE WRN GULF STATES. BY DAY 5 THE  
ENSEMBLE MEMBER SPREAD INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE WRN CONUS.  
AN AVERAGE OF THE 00Z/21 ENSEMBLE MEANS OF THE GEFS/ECMWF/CANADIAN  
STILL OFFERS A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE TO THE VARIOUS MODEL  
SOLUTIONS INCLUDING THOSE OF THE NEW 12Z/21 MODELS. THE FATE OF  
FAY DAY 5 AND BEYOND BECOMES A BIT MURKY...SO DAY 6-7 MANUAL  
GRAPHICS JUST SHOWED A SLOW NNE DRIFT OF THAT FEATURE WITHOUT A  
SYS FROM THE N TO CLEARLY PICK IT UP. PLEASE REFER TO TPC  
DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING FAY.  
 
   
..REGIONAL HIGHLIGHTS  
 
   
..GULF COAST/S AND MID ATLANTIC STATES  
 
THE REMNANTS OF SLOW MOVING BUT WET TS FAY WILL BRING HEAVY  
RAINFALL ESPECIALLY TO THE FL PANHANDLE IN THE MEDIUM RANGE. IT  
APPEARS THAT THE NRN EXTENT OF THE HEAVY RAINFALL WILL BE SLOW TO  
WORK NWD INTO THE DROUGHT STRICKEN AREAS OF AL AND GA....BUT SOME  
SHOULD REACH THOSE AREAS BY DAY 6 OR 7. THE 12Z GFS APPEARS TO  
REPLACE WEAK STEERING FLOW OVER THE SERN STATES WITH 500MB SWLY  
FLOW OVER THE SERN STATES DAYS 5-6...PULLING FAYS MOISTURE TOO  
QUICKLY NEWD INTO THE CAROLINAS DAY 5...AND ON INTO THE  
MID-ATLANTIC DAY 6. THE NEW 12Z/21 CANADIAN/ECMWF FOLLOW OUR  
CONTINUITY BETTER BY MAINTAINING A BLOCKIER 500MB PATTERN TO THE N  
THRU E OF THE REMNANTS OF FAY...ALLOWING ONLY A SLOW NNE DRIFT  
DAYS WED/THU DAYS 6-7 FROM MON DAY 5 TPC POSITION OF 32N/90W.  
 
...COLD FRONT MOVING INTO THE ERN PORTION OF THE CONUS THEN  
STALLING OUT...  
 
ONLY MODERATE AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED WITH THIS FRONT SINCE THE DEEP  
MOISTURE FROM THE REMNANTS OF FAY IS EXPECTED TO BE SLOW TO  
WORKING NWD. LITTLE INTERACTION IS EXPECTED WITH THIS FRONT THRU  
TUE DAY 5.  
   
..PACIFIC NW COAST  
 
A DECENT FRONT FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WILL BRING SIGNIFICANT PCPN  
TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF WA/OR SUN/MON DAYS 3-4. FAST FLOW ATOP  
AN ERN PACIFIC RIDGE OFFERS PERHAPS ANOTHER QUICK SHOT AT PRECIP  
FOR WA DAY 6 OR 7 BUT LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE TIMING.  
 
FLOOD  
 
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