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FXUS02 KWBC 261819  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
218 PM EDT TUE AUG 26 2008  
 
VALID 12Z FRI AUG 29 2008 - 12Z TUE SEP 02 2008  
 
A PORTION THE POLAR VORTEX OVER NORTHWEST CANADA APPEARS TO BE THE  
DOMINANT FEATURE TODAY...ALLOWING FOR THE FORMATION OF A WEST  
COAST TROUGH. OUT EAST...THE SITUATION IS MUCH MORE TRICKY DUE TO  
DAY-TO-DAY AND RUN-TO-RUN VARIATIONS OF ENERGY MOVING THROUGH NEW  
ENGLAND...AND ENERGY MOVING DOWN THE BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL  
RIDGE TOWARDS THE GULF COAST. OVERALL...CONFIDENCE IN TODAYS  
PREFERRED SOLUTION /00Z NCEP ENSEMBLE MEAN AND 00Z GFS/ IS LOW DUE  
THE AFOREMENTIONED CHANGES IN THE GUIDANCE. OUT WEST...A LOOK AT  
THE 12Z GUIDANCE AND COORDINATION WITH THE ALASKA MEDIUM RANGE  
DESK LED TO SOME ACCELERATION TO THE COLD FRONT...NOW MOVING INTO  
WASHINGTON AT THE END OF THE PERIOD. THIS...ALONG WITH GUSTAVS  
TRACK...WERE THE ONLY CHANGES MADE TO THE MORNING SET OF  
PRESSURES.  
 
WEST...  
WHILE THE MODELS AGREE ON TROUGHING...THEY DISAGREE AS TO HOW  
AMPLIFIED THE SYSTEM WILL BE. THE 00Z ECMWF IS THE MOST  
AMPLIFIED...WITH THE 00Z UKMET/00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SHOW AN  
INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION...WHILE THE 00Z GFS/00Z NCEP ENSEMBLE MEAN  
ARE THE WEAKEST BECAUSE OF THEIR STRONGER SYSTEM IN THE NORTHEAST  
PACIFIC. FOR NOW...FAVOR A BLEND OF THE 00Z GFS/NCEP ENSEMBLE  
MEAN...BUT THIS CHOICE IS ONE OF LOW CONFIDENCE AND WILL BE  
COORDINATED WITH THE ALASKA MEDIUM RANGE DESK LATER THIS MORNING.  
 
SOUTHEAST...  
GUSTAVS TRACK IS ONE BIG QUESTION MARK...WHICH IS IMPLIED BY  
CURRENT OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE AND THEIR LACK OF CONTINUITY  
/PARTICULARLY IN THE ECMWF/ SINCE YESTERDAY. THE ECMWF AND  
CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW TREMENDOUS SPREAD...RANGING IN  
SOLUTIONS FROM RECURVATURE OFF THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA AND THE  
CAROLINAS TO A WESTWARD TRACK THROUGH THE BAY OF CAMPECHE. THE  
MEAN FLOW PATTERN NEAR THE GULF COAST/SOUTHEAST CONTINUES TO  
INDICATE A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE EARLY IN THE  
PERIOD...WITH A COUPLE PIECES OF GUIDANCE SHOWING AN UPPER LOW  
NEAR THE CENTRAL GULF COAST LATER ON /SEEN ON ALL THE GUIDANCE  
THIS TIME YESTERDAY/ WHICH IS A COMMON SUMMERTIME DEVELOPMENT.  
EVEN MODELS THAT SHIFTED A BIT TO THE WEST /THE CANADIAN/ SHOW  
THIS FEATURE AND COLLAPSE THE STEERING PATTERN OVER THE CENTRAL  
GULF OF MEXICO BOTH AT THE SURFACE AND MID LEVELS OF THE  
TROPOSPHERE. WITH THE AMPLIFICATION EXPECTED IN THE RIDGE ACROSS  
THE EAST...THERE IS ROOM FOR GUSTAV TO GAIN LATITUDE IF IT REMAINS  
A DEEP CYCLONE...WHICH IS ONLY AN IF WHEN CONSIDERING THE GFS  
SOLUTION. THE 16Z CALL WITH NHC SHIFTED THE TRACK SOMEWHAT WEST  
OF THE MORNING PRELIMS...IMPLYING A CYCLONE MOVING TOWARDS THE  
CENTRAL GULF COAST BEYOND THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD.  
 
NORTHEAST/EASTERN CANADA...  
ONLY THE GFS AND CANADIAN CLOSE OFF ENERGY NEAR NEW  
ENGLAND/ATLANTIC CANADA EARLY NEXT WEEK...AS THE ECMWF  
SIGNIFICANTLY BACKED OFF ON ITS 00Z RUN. THE TREND IN BOTH THE  
GFS AND ECMWF FROM THIS TIME YESTERDAY IS TOWARDS A WEAKER AND  
MORE PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM. HOWEVER...THE 00Z NCEP ENSEMBLE MEAN WAS  
DEEPER THAN MUCH OF THE GUIDANCE WITH THIS FEATURE...THOUGH  
WAVELENGTH SEPARATION BETWEEN THE WEST COAST TROUGH AND THIS  
SYSTEM AS WELL AS REMNANT RIDGING OVER THE DAVIS STRAIT/SOUTHERN  
GREENLAND HINT THAT A CLOSED CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE ACROSS NEW  
ENGLAND. THE LESS SAID ABOUT THE 00Z CANADIAN MODELS HURRICANE  
MOVING INTO NEW ENGLAND...THE BETTER. THINK A 00Z GFS/NCEP  
ENSEMBLE MEAN IS THE BEST WAY TO GO AT THE CURRENT TIME...BUT  
CONFIDENCE IS LOW IN ANY INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF GUIDANCE IN THIS  
REGION.  
 
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