978  
FXSA20 KWBC 221701  
PMDSA  
 
SOUTH AMERICA FORECAST DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
100 PM EDT MON SEP 22 2008  
 
GFS DATA AT FTPPRD.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/PUB/DATA/NCCF/COM/GFS/PROD/  
 
MODEL COMPARISON (VALID FROM 00Z SEP 22). OVER THE ATLANTIC THE  
GLOBAL MODELS AGREE QUITE WELL THROUGH 120 HRS. OVER THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC/SOUTHERN CONE...HOWEVER...THE DIFFERENCES BECOME EVIDENT  
BY 72-84 HRS...AS THEY DIVERGE ON AMPLITUDE OF A MID LATITUDE  
TROUGH ENTERING THE CONTINENT. THE EUROPEAN MODELS FAVOR A  
STRONGER SOUTHERN STREAM INCURSION THAN WHAT THE GFS SUGGESTS...  
AND THIS COMES WITH THE STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GLOBAL ENSEMBLES...  
AND THIS IS A LIKELY TREND FOR THE GFS MODEL TO FOLLOW ON FUTURE  
RUNS.  
 
AT 500 HPA...A BROAD TROUGH IS INITIALIZED OVER SOUTHEAST  
BRASIL...CENTERING ON A MEANDERING LOW NEAR 30S 43W. THROUGH 48  
HRS THE LOW WILL FILL TO AN OPEN TROUGH...WHILE THE TROUGH PUSHES  
EAST. AT 72-96 HRS...HOWEVER...ANOTHER LOW FORMS ALONG THIS AXIS  
NEAR 40S 30W AS IT RECEIVES AN INFLOW OF SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY.  
AT LOW LEVELS THIS TROUGH SUPPORTS A BROAD/OCCLUDED TROUGH OFF  
THE SOUTHEAST COAST OF BRASIL...AND A FRONT WITH AXIS NORTHWEST  
ACROSS RIO DE JANEIRO/NORTHERN SAO PAULO TO MATO GROSSO DO SUL/  
NORTHERN BOLIVIA. THE LOW/TROUGH SLOWLY PULLS TO THE EAST-  
SOUTHEAST OVER THE NEXT THREE DAYS...WHILE THE FRONT DRIFTS NORTH  
TO ESPIRITO SANTO...THEN INLAND INTO MATO GROSSO DO SUL/MATO  
GROSSO-BOLIVIAN JUNGLE. THIS IS TO MEANWHILE CONTINUE FAVORING  
SCATTERED CLOUD COVER WITH EMBEDDED CONVECTION...WITH A GRADUAL  
DECREASE IN CLOUD COVER/ACTIVITY OVER CENTRAL BRASIL/NORTHERN  
BOLIVIA THROUGH MID CYCLE. BUT COASTAL CONVECTION WILL PERSIST  
ALONG THE SERRA DO MAR...TO CONCENTRATE OVER SAO PAULO/SANTA  
CATARINA WITH MAXIMA OF 05-10MM/DAY. THIS IS TO GRADUALLY  
INCREASE TO 10-20MM BY 96 HRS. OTHER CONVECTION WILL BUILD OVER  
ESPIRITO SANTO/SOUTHERN BAHIA...WITH RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 05-  
10MM/DAY.  
 
OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC...MEANWHILE...A 500 PHA TROUGH ALONG 80W  
IS PUSHING EAST AGAINST A BLOCKING RIDGE ALONG 60W/65W. UNDER  
INFLUENCE OF THIS AXIS THE TROUGH WILL SHEAR EASTWARD ACROSS  
PATAGONIA BY 36-48 HRS...WHILE A NORTHERN STREAM VORTEX  
SEGREGATES OVER NORTHWEST ARGENTINA. THIS VORTEX WILL FAVOR  
ISOLATED CONVECTION ON THE NORTHERN ANDES OF ARGENTINA BY MID  
CYCLE. THE MID LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS SOUTHERN TO  
SOUTHEAST BRASIL BY 72-96 HRS...WHERE IT IS TO THEN STALL THROUGH  
120 HRS. IT WILL CONCENTRATE ITS SHORT WAVE ENERGY OVER SAO  
PAULO-MATO GROSSO DO SUL. THIS IS TO FAVOR A SURGE IN CONVECTION  
ACROSS MINAS GERAIS/NORTHERN SAO PAULO IN BRASIL AND PORTIONS OF  
BAHIA/ESPIRITO SANTO...WITH MAXIMA OF 30-60MM BY 96-120 HRS.  
 
THE MODELS THEN FORECAST ANOTHER TROUGH TO MOVE ALONG 90W BY 72  
HRS. THE ECMWF/UKMET THEN FORECAST THE MID LEVEL TROUGH TO MOVE  
ALONG 80W BY 96 HRS...TO STALL OFF THE COAST OF CHILE AS IT THEN  
CLASHES WITH A BLOCKING RIDGE OVER THE CONTINENT/SOUTHERN CONE.  
THE GFS INITIALLY FOLLOWS A SIMILAR EVOLUTION...BUT BY 96 HRS IT  
STARTS TO DIVERGE AS IT FORECASTS THE TROUGH TO SPLIT IN TWO  
AXES...WITH THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE TROUGH TO QUICKLY PUSH UNDER  
THE CONTINENTAL RIDGE AND ACROSS THE DRAKE PASSAGE BY 96-108 HRS.  
THE GFS THEN FORECASTS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TROUGH TO  
MEANDER OFF THE CENTRAL COAST OF CHILE. ALTHOUGH BOTH SOLUTIONS  
ARE VIABLE OPTIONS... THE ECMWF/UKMET SOLUTION COMES WITH THE  
STRONG SUPPORT OF THE GLOBAL ENSEMBLES...WITH INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS  
CLUSTERING QUITE WELL IN FAVOR OF THIS EVOLUTION. SO WE ARE GOING  
TO DOWNPLAY THE GFS SOLUTION/FORECAST...AND GIVE MORE EMPHASIS TO  
WHAT THE EUROPEAN PROJECT.  
 
NORTH OVER THE CONTINENT...AT 200 HPA....A SHORT WAVE TROUGH  
ALONG 60W/65W SEPARATES TWO RIDGES...WITH ONE OVER THE EASTERN  
PACIFIC AND THE OTHER OVER THE WESTERN TROPICAL ATLANTIC/  
NORTHEAST BRASIL. THE SHORT WAVE TROUGH WILL GRADUALLY MOVE EAST  
ACROSS MINAS GERAIS IN BRASIL BY 60-72 HRS. BY THAT TIME...THE  
WESTERN CELL OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE RELOCATES TO AMAZONAS IN  
BRASIL...WHERE IT BUILDS/INTENSIFIES AS THE CYCLE PROGRESSES. THE  
INTENSIFICATION OF THIS RIDGE WILL ACCOMPANY AN INCREASE IN  
TROPICAL CONVECTION ACROSS WESTERN/NORTHWEST PORTIONS OF BRASIL-  
PERUVIAN JUNGLE-SOUTHERN COLOMBIA AND ACROSS MOST OF ECUADOR...  
WHERE DAILY MAXIMA WILL LIKELY EXCEED 20-40MM. OTHER CONVECTION  
IS EXPECTED OVER MINAS GERAIS IN BRASIL...WHERE THE  
AFOREMENTIONED SHORT WAVE TROUGH...AND A SECONDARY VORTEX ARE TO  
TRIGGER SCATTERED DEEP CONVECTION BY THE END OF THE CYCLE. IN  
THIS REGION THE MODELS ARE PROJECTING MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL  
AMOUNTS BY 96-120 HRS...AND THEY HAVE BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT ON  
THEIR FORECAST OF THIS EVENT.  
 
GUZMAN...SENAMHI (BOLIVIA)  
URRA...DMC (CHILE)  
DAVISON...HPC (USA)
 
 
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