081  
FXUS02 KWBC 101930  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
330 PM EDT MON AUG 10 2009  
 
VALID 12Z THU AUG 13 2009 - 12Z MON AUG 17 2009  
 
GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT EXISTS AMONG GLOBAL ENSEMBLE MEANS AND  
LAGGED-AVERAGE FORECASTS OF THE GFS/ECMWF IN THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD REGARDING A SLOWLY AMPLIFYING LONGWAVE TROUGH IN THE  
WEST...A COMPENSATING UPPER RIDGE EXPANDING BETWEEN WEST TEXAS AND  
THE UPPER MIDWEST...  
AND A LINGERING BUT SLOWLY WEAKENING TROUGH FROM LOUISIANA INTO  
THE GREAT LAKES. HOWEVER...  
THE FLOW REMAINS QUITE PROGRESSIVE ACROSS CANADA AND THUS IS THE  
MAIN SOURCE OF UNCERTAINTY IN TODAY'S FORECAST. AS MIGHT BE  
EXPECTED WITH A SPLIT-FLOW REGIME...DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE SPREAD  
IS ABOVE AVERAGE...WITH CAUTIOUS USE OF DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE  
RECOMMENDED ESPECIALLY BEYOND DAY 5.  
 
REGARDING THE DAY-TO-DAY DETAILS...SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES EXIST  
IN THE EAST DAYS 3-5...WITH SEVERAL MODELS INCLUDING THE 06-12Z  
GFS AND 12Z ECMWF/CANADIAN TRENDING SLOWER/STRONGER WITH A SURFACE  
LOW OFF THE NORTHEAST COAST DAY 3 BEFORE DEEPENING FURTHER OVER  
THE NORTHEAST ATLANTIC. SREF/GEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND OTHER  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE SHOW CONSIDERABLE SPREAD WITH THE  
SPEED/INTENSITY OF THIS SYSTEM WITH IT TOO EARLY TO CALL REGARDING  
THE EXACT SOLUTION. THUS...PREFER A CONSENSUS APPROACH INVOLVING A  
BLEND OF NUMEROUS SOLUTIONS UNTIL THE SOLUTION ENVELOPE SHRINKS.  
THE NEXT REGION OF UNCERTAINTY IS WESTERN CANADA...WITH THE 12Z  
GFS SIMILAR TO ITS 06Z RUN IN MOVING TOWARD THE FAST SIDE OF THE  
GUIDANCE ENVELOPE WITH EASTWARD EJECTION OF AN UPPER LOW OVER  
ALASKA DAYS 3/4. WHILE IT MAY SEEM TOO FAR NORTH TO HAVE A DIRECT  
BEARING ON THE CONUS WEATHER...THE FASTER GFS SOLUTION ACTUALLY  
ALLOWS FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE AMPLIFYING TROUGH ALONG  
THE WEST COAST TO ALSO EJECT EASTWARD RESULTING IN A VERY  
DIFFERENT SURFACE PRESSURE PATTERN ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST DAYS 5/6 THAN DEPICTED BY THE MAJORITY OF  
OTHER GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY GLOBAL MODEL ENSEMBLE MEANS WHICH  
AVERAGE 12-24 HRS SLOWER AND WEAKER.  
 
THE PREFERRED LONGWAVE/SHORTWAVE PATTERN...WHICH IS CLOSEST TO THE  
00Z ECMWF DAYS 3/4...AND A 50/50 BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF/ECMWF  
ENSEMBLE MEAN DAYS 5-7...SHOULD FAVOR TWO MAIN AXES OF  
RAINFALL...WITH ONE AXIS STRETCHING ALONG A WEAKENING FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST WHERE THE DEEPEST AND MOIST ABUNDANT  
WATER VAPOR WILL RESIDE...AND ANOTHER LIGHTER AXIS DEVELOPING NEAR  
A SLOW MOVING FRONTAL BOUNDARY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THE  
NEXT MOST NOTICEABLE IMPACT WILL BE THE WARMING TREND EXPANDING  
FROM WEST TEXAS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BENEATH THE BUILDING UPPER  
RIDGE AND JUST AHEAD OF THE SLOWLY-SINKING COLD FRONT TO THE  
NORTH.  
 
JAMES  

 
 
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