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FXUS02 KWBC 121753  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
152 PM EDT WED AUG 12 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SAT AUG 15 2009 - 12Z WED AUG 19 2009  
 
THE GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT CONCERNING THE  
EVOLUTION OF THE LARGE SCALE PATTERN THIS PERIOD...WITH SYSTEMS  
PROGRESSING THROUGH THE MID-LATITUDES AND CONTINUOUSLY EVOLVING  
AND MOVING POSITIVE/NEGATIVE ANOMALY CENTERS ACROSS WESTERN  
LONGITUDES. CHOSE TO START FRO OVERNIGHT PRELIMS WITH A 00Z  
ECMWF/00Z CANADIAN COMPROMISE SOLUTION...WHICH LIE IN BETWEEN THE  
00Z GEFS MEAN AND 12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS...AND MADE  
SOME ADJUSTMENTS TOWARDS THE 12Z MULTI-MODEL ENSEMBLE LOW PRESSURE  
CENTER CLUSTERING.  
 
UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS PREFER TO TREND TOWARDS ENS MEAN CONSENSUS  
AND TO DAMPEN OUT INDIVIDUAL UNCERTAIN MODEL DETAILS. THUS HAVE  
BLENDED OP GFS AND ECMWF AND TO LARGER DEGREE INCORPORATE A WELL  
AGREED UPON GFS AND ECMWF ENS MEAN SOLUTION. THIS IN ESSENCE TAKE  
THE DAY 3 SAT WRN CONUS TROF SLOWLY EWD WITH A POTENTIAL RELOADING  
SHORTWAVE DROPPING SEWD THRU S CENTRAL CANADA WITH THE MEAN  
PATTERN SETTING UP WITH A TROF ALONG 95W BY LATE PERIOD AND A WELL  
AGREED UPON LONGER TERM TROF AXIS ALONG 90W WITH UPSTREAM RIDGING  
CONTINUING OVER WRN CONUS.  
 
06Z AND 12Z GFS RUNS DEVELOP A FASTER AND SHARPER TROF IN THE  
PLAINS DAYS 6-7 IN RESPONSE TO BUILDING MORE UPSTREAM RIDGING OVER  
THE PAC NORTHWEST AND B.C. GFS ENS MEANS REFLECT A MORE MODERATE  
TROF MUCH LIKE THE 00Z GFS AND ECMWF ENS MEANS. CMC HAS DE  
AMPLIFIED ITS FORECAST PATTERN DAYS 5-6 WITH LESS EPAC RIDGING AND  
LESS DOWNSTREAM DIGGING CENTRAL CANADIAN AND CONUS TROF. UKMET HAS  
A DEEP VORTEX BY DAY 6 OVER HUDSON BAY WITH A BROAD TROF COVERING  
THE NRN AND CENTRAL PLAINS. BEST TO KEEP A BETTER AGREED UPON 00Z  
GFS ENS AND ECMWF MEAN FOR LATE PERIOD AT THIS TIME. NO CHANGES TO  
AFTN FINALS FROM UP DATED MORNING PRELIMS.  
 
ATLANTIC TROPICS QUITE ACTIVE THIS PERIOD WITH T.D. TWO FORECAST  
TO BECOME T.S. ANA. BY DAY SEVEN THIS SYSTEM MAY BE SOUTHEAST OF  
THE SOUTH ATLANTIC SEABOARD WITH MOST GLOBAL MODELS SUPRESSING  
INTENSITY AT THIS TIME BEYOND DAY 5. SECOND AFRICAN COASTAL WAVE  
HAS AGITATED NEARLY ALL GLOBAL FORECAST MODELS WITH GFS LEADING  
THE PACK IN ITS CYCLOGENESIS AND FORECAST SPEED. A WELL AGREED  
UPON TRACK TOWARDS THE LESS ANTILLES AT T.S. STRENGTH OR GREATER  
AS INDICATED BY A MODEL CONSENSUS BY DAY 7 WED. SEE NHC  
DISCUSSIONS/ADVISORIES FOR THIS SYSTEMS. HPC PROGS REFLECT TPC AND  
HPC COORDINATED POSITIONS.  
ROTH/ROSENSTEIN  

 
 
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