699  
FXUS02 KWBC 131751  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
151 PM EDT THU AUG 13 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SUN AUG 16 2009 - 12Z THU AUG 20 2009  
 
OVERNIGHT PRELIMS USED A BLEND OF THE 00Z GFS/00Z GEFS MEAN AND  
12Z ECMWF/12Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS. THE CONSENSUS  
APPROACH WAS USED TO DAMPEN OUT INDIVIDUAL UNCERTAIN MODEL  
DETAILS. THUS HAVE BLENDED 00Z OPERATIONAL GFS AND 12Z ECMWF AND  
TO INCORPORATE THE WELL CLUSTERED 00Z GFS MEAN/ 12Z ECMWF ENS  
MEAN/00Z CANADIAN GLOBAL ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS. THE MODELS  
INDICATE A CLOSED LOW SFC AND ALOFT APPROACHING THE UPPER  
ALEUTIANS OF AK/ADJACENT GULF OF AK. THIS TELECONNECTS WITH MID  
LEVEL RIDGING MOVING INLAND FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES AND MID LEVEL TROUGH MOVING FROM THE PLAINS  
TOWARDS THE UPPER LAKES. THIS IS SHOWN IN MOST INDIVIDUAL MODEL  
SOLUTIONS...WITH THE 00Z CANADIAN GLOBAL AND 00Z ECMWF FINDING A  
SHORTWV DIGGING DOWN THE BACK SIDE OF THE TROUGH OVER THE UPPER  
LAKES AND PRODUCING A SEPARATE SFC LOW FURTHER WEST-SOUTHWEST OVER  
THE NORTHERN PLAINS VS THAT SHOWN IN THE 00Z GFS/12Z ECMWF AND  
RESPECTIVE 00Z NCEP/12Z ECMWF/00Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEANS. BETTER  
CLUSTERING AMONG THE LATTER SOLUTIONS AND BETTER AGREEMENT WITH  
THE TELECONNECTIONS LEAD TO THE PREFERENCE TO BLEND THE CLUSTERED  
MODEL/ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS.  
 
UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS USE THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN WITH THIS BLEND  
AND IS SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z LAGGED AVERAGE BLENS AND 06Z OP GFS.  
 
ALL MODELS AND ESP MEANS OF GFS/ECMWF INDICATE A ROCKIES RIDGE AND  
DOWNSTREAM TROF ALONG 90W-85W LATE PERIOD INTO LATE NEXT WEEK AND  
WEEKEND. ORIENTATION OF THIS PATTERN WILL BECOME CRUCIAL IMPACTING  
THE TRACK OF THE ATLANTIC TROPICAL SYSTEMS.  
 
AVAILABLE 12Z MODEL RUNS OFFER LITTLE CHANGES AND A PRIOR PREFERED  
SOLUTION REMAINS FOR HPC PROGS.  
 
ATLANTIC TROPICS ARE FORECAST TO BE QUITE ACTIVE THIS  
PERIOD...WITH MODELS TRACKING A COUPLE OF SYSTEMS MOVING WEST  
ACROSS THE ATLANTIC. AT THIS TIEM TE SECOND OF THESE SYSTEM MAY  
AFFECT THE LESS ANTILLES BY DAY 7 THURSDAY. SEE NHC  
DISCUSSIONS/ADVISORIES FOR THESE SYSTEMS. ROUTINE TPC/HPC  
COORDINATION HAS DETERMINED POSITIONS IN CHARTS THRU DAY 7.  
PETERSEN/ROSENSTEIN  

 
 
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