891  
FXUS02 KWBC 181913  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
313 PM EDT TUE AUG 18 2009  
 
VALID 12Z FRI AUG 21 2009 - 12Z TUE AUG 25 2009  
 
 
PRELIMINARY UPDATE...  
 
THE PRELIMINARY FRONTS AND PRESSURES FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 7 WERE  
UPDATED PRIMARILY USING THE 00Z/18 ECMWF. THE LAST FOUR EC  
ENSEMBLE MEANS HAVE TRENDED TOWARD MORE AMPLITUDE WITH THE TROUGH  
CROSSING THE GREAT LAKES DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD...AND  
TOWARD A SLOWER...SHARPER TROUGH APPROACHING BRITISH COLUMBIA BY  
THE END OF THE FORECAST. THE LATEST DETERMINISTIC ECMWF REFLECTS  
THESE TRENDS WELL...ADDING MORE RIGOR TO ITS SOLUTION. THE 00Z/18  
GFS IS OUT OF SYNC WITH BOTH THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE AND THE  
GEM GLOBAL MODEL DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD...SHOWING A  
SPRAWLING POLAR VORTEX FROM HUDSON BAY EASTWARD. THE GEM GLOBAL  
HANGS ONTO THE TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES LONGER THAN  
THE OTHER MODELS...AND WHILE THIS SOLUTION IS NOT OUT OF THE  
QUESTION BASED ON THE SPREAD EVEN IN THE EC ENSEMBLE MEMBERS...THE  
ODDS ARE AGAINST IT.  
 
FINAL...  
 
THE 12Z/18 GFS IS STILL OFFERING A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT  
CONFIGURATION TO THE FLOW OVER EASTERN CANADA DURING THE SECOND  
HALF OF THE FORECAST PERIOD THAN THE EUROPEAN CENTRE  
GUIDANCE...DEPICTING A CONSOLIDATED VORTEX. THE 12Z/18 ECMWF IS  
CLOSE TO ITS 00Z/18 SOLUTION...AND WHERE IT DOES DIFFER...IT IS  
WITHIN TOLERANCE WITH THE MOST RECENT EC ENSEMBLE MEAN.  
 
CISCO  
 
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