768  
FXUS02 KWBC 261808  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
208 PM EDT WED AUG 26 2009  
 
VALID 12Z SAT AUG 29 2009 - 12Z WED SEP 02 2009  
 
MODELS AND THEIR ENSEMBLES SHOW NEAR AVERAGE AGREEMENT THIS CYCLE  
CONCERNING THE LONGWAVE FLOW IN THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...WITH A  
DEEP UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC MOVING STEADILY INTO  
WESTERN NORTH AMERICA...WHICH SLOWLY LIFTS AN UPPER LOW OUT OF THE  
GREAT LAKES TOWARD THE END OF THE PERIOD. THE MAIN ISSUES TODAY  
INVOLVE THE AMPLITUDE AND SPEED OF INDIVIDUAL SHORTWAVE  
TROUGHS...WITH THE DIFFERENCES BECOMING INCREASINGLY DRAMATIC  
AFTER DAY 5. THE GFS IS NEAR THE FAST EDGE OF THE GUIDANCE WITH  
ITS MID/UPPER LEVEL FLOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN CANADIAN  
PROVINCES...WHICH THEN LIFTS THE UPPER LOW OUT OF THE GREAT LAKES  
FASTER THAN MOST OTHER SOLUTIONS. MEANWHILE...THE ECMWF IS ABOUT A  
DAY FASTER THAN THE GFS WITH A PORTION OF THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC  
TROUGH SEPARATING INTO A CLOSED LOW NEAR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY  
DAY 7. TO ADDRESS THESE AND OTHER MODEL DIFFERENCES...EARLY  
PRELIMS USED AN 80/20 OPERATIONAL ECMWF/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN BLEND  
DAYS 3/4...THEN TRANSITIONING TO A 40/60 OPERATIONAL ECMWF/ECMWF  
ENSEMBLE MEAN BLEND BY DAY 7. THIS APPROACH DISCOUNTS THE FASTER  
GFS SOLUTION IN THE EAST WHILE AVERAGING THE TIMING DIFFERENCES IN  
THE WEST.  
 
UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS...THESE ARE CHANGED TO A BLEND OF OP CMC  
AND OP ECMWF OVER CONUS WITH AN ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THE LARGE  
DIFFERENCES WITH THE EAST COAST TROPICAL SYSTEM DAY 3  
SAT. A 50/50 BLEND OF ECMWF AND CMC USED WITH A SLIGHT MANUAL  
ADJUSTEMENT SOUTHEAST FOR THE MID ATLANTIC LOW. DAYS 6-7 BLEND GFS  
ENS MEAN AND ECMWF ENS MEAN. CMC WHILE ACCEPTABLE OVER THE EAST  
LEAVES OFFSHORE AN ELONGATED TROF OFF THE B.C. COAST WHILE GFS AND  
ECMWF BRING IT DOWN STRONGER WITH ECMWF THE FASTEST. BY DAY 7 BOTH  
00Z/06Z RUNS OF GFS AND ECMWF HAVE A LARGE CLOSED LOW OFF THE PAC  
NW/NRN CA COAST. PREFER AT THIS TIME TO USE A BLEND OF BOTH  
GFS/ECMWF ENS MEAN HERE WHICH KEEPS A SIG TROF BUT NOT YET A  
CLOSED LOW.  
 
12Z MODEL GUIDANCE OF GFS DIFFERS WITH THE LATE PERIOD GLFAK TROF  
BY DROPPING SEWD CLOSED LOW. ENOUGH DIFFERENCES HERE TO CONT TO  
USE THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF ENS MEAN.  
AFTN FINALS HAVE LITTLE CHANGE FROM UPDATED PRELIMS  
 
EAST COAST/TROPICS...  
T.S.DANNY CONTS TO INTENSIFY. GLOBAL MODELS CONT TO HAVE A MORE  
WESTERLY TRACK WHILE IT INTERACTS WITH A LINGERING MID LEVEL TROF  
OVER ERN CONUS LATE THURSDAY AND EARLY FRIDAY ALLOWING IT TO LIFT  
RAPIDLY NWD WHILE HURRICANE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTS TO CLUSTER WITH A  
MORE OFSHORE TRACK. ALL PHASE DIAGRAM GUIDANCE INDICATES A  
MDT/DEEP SYMETRIC WARM CORE LOW BECOMING BAROCLINIC ONCE IT  
REACHES HIGHER LATITUDES. DAYS 3-5 SAT/MON POSITIONS REFLECT THE  
NHC FORECASTS. THIS SYSTEM WILL AFFECT THE MID ATLC AND NEW ENG  
COAST FRI-SUN WITH HEAVY RAINS AND HIGH WINDS. SRN NEW ENG MOST  
AFFECTED WITH THIS SYSTEM WITH A LARGE AREA OF 3 INCH PLUS  
RAINFALL. SEE NHC/TPC ADVISORIES/WARNINGS.  
JAMES/ROSENSTEIN  
 
 
 
 
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