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FXUS02 KWBC 041931  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD  
330 PM EDT FRI SEP 04 2009  
 
VALID 12Z MON SEP 07 2009 - 12Z FRI SEP 11 2009  
 
 
SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY ENSEMBLES/MODELS GENERALLY SHOW A PROGRESSIVE  
PATTERN ABOVE LATITUDE 45N ACROSS NOAM. HOWEVER THE DEVIL IS IN  
THE DETAILS AT LOWER LATITUDES. WEAK YET SIGNIFICANT UPPER  
VORTICITY MAXIMA COVERING A BROAD AREA FROM THE OH VLY ESE INTO  
THE CAROLINAS AND THE MID ATLANTIC STATES COULD PLAY A ROLE IN  
DETERMINING IF ANY MOISTURE FROM REMNANTS OF TS ERIKA MIGHT AFFECT  
THE E COAST NEXT WED-FRI. MUCH WILL DEPEND ON THE BLOCKING  
POTENTIAL OF A HIGH PRES SYS SINKING SE FROM QB ACROSS NEW ENG  
LATE NEXT WEEK. THIS SURFACE HIGH WILL BE SUPPORTED BY A VERY  
STRONG RIDGE AT 500 MILLIBARS.  
 
12Z/04 MODELS ARE IN DECENT AGREEMENT THRU WED DAY 5 WITH FEATURES  
IN THE POLAR JET WAVETRAIN ABOVE LATITUDE 45N....BUT OUR  
CONFIDENCE PLUMMETS IN THE 12Z/04 GFS THEREAFTER. THE GFS GETS TOO  
AMPLIFIED WITH A SHORTWAVE PASSING N OF THE GREAT LAKES AROUND THU  
DAY 6 GIVEN THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE FLOW. PREFER TO STAY  
WITH THE MOSTLY ECMWF BASED CONTINUITY OF OUR UPDATED PRELIMS  
SINCE THE 12Z ECMWF WAS FAIRLY CONSISTENT ACROSS THE CONUS WITH  
ITS PREVIOUS RUN. THE EXCEPTION TO THIS CONSISTENCY WAS THAT THE  
NEW ECMWF RUN WAS FARTHER N WITH A SRN CANADIAN SHORTWAVE DAYS  
6-7. ITS HIGH AMPLITUDE WITH STILL ANOTHER WAVE DROPPING INTO THE  
NRN PLAINS DAY 7 IS SUSPECT.  
 
CONCERNING SENSIBLE WEATHER...WE AGAIN SEE THE SAME PLAYERS AS  
YESTERDAY  
 
MONSOONAL MOISTURE WILL IGNITE DIURNALLY OVER THE CENTRAL AND SRN  
ROCKIES/INTERMOUNTAIN REGIONS DAYS 3-4. MEANWHILE NRN/CENTRAL  
PLAINS CONVECTION WILL BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED ALONG /AHEAD OF THE  
COLD FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE HEIGHT FALLS MOVING ACROSS THE NWRN  
QUADRANT OF THE NATION BY TUE EVE. THEY SHOULD CONTINUE EWD IN  
TANDEM WITH THE FRONT THEREAFTER...WITH A TENDENCY FOR CONVECTION  
TO LINGER OVER TX. HEIGHT RISES IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING WRN  
500MB TROF WILL PUT A DAMPER ON MOST MONSOONAL PRECIP IN THE SRN  
ROCKIES/INTERMOUNTAIN REGIONS FROM DAY 5 ONWARDS. SOME LESS  
ORGANIZED SHOWERS ARE LIKELY EACH DAY FROM THE WRN GULF STATES  
THRU THE OH VLY. THE BIG QUESTION MARK WILL BE THE WWD AND NWD  
EXTENT OF ATLANTIC MOISTURE INTO THE CAROLINAS AND MID ATLANTIC  
STATES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REMNANTS OF ERICA OFFSHORE AND  
EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW S OF A DEPARTING SURFACE HIGH OFF THE NEW  
ENG COAST.  
 
ROTH/FLOOD  

 
 
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